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War crime
And we add it to the pile…
Another day another war crime from this piece of shit country…
anytime anything new comes up with epstein, he starts bombing iran.
What is this from?
No idea lol I just googled “gigantic pile of papers image”
The faint “dreamstime” watermark led me to search for that name. Looks like a stock photo company.
Dreams in the name almost guarantees ai.
Looked around more, Tineye followed it back to Adobe stock photos where they say it is AI.
Crime against humanity
You are right. It is more adequate term
Not a single mention of that in the article.
So you need a news reporter to declare its a war crime before you will use your own brain and understand the definitions of war crimes, is that whats going on here?
They are criticizing the article for being non-comprehensive.
You are criticizing them because you misunderstood their point and I guess you felt the need to keep digging until you started throwing insults.
You know - I don’t think I need to offer further commentary. The facts are in evidence.
Take a deep breath. Think of something you’re grateful for, and tell someone you care for them. That is your penance.The comment I replied to is:
Not a single mention of that in the article.
Which was itself a reply to mrdowns comment:
War cimes
Its pretty straight forward. Then look at "orbituary"s other comments and you see stuff like this:
Yes. For the dummies, you do. What is hard to understand about this? Not everybody is well informed or educated enough to know what is and is not a war crime.
So if you want to dick-waggle at someone about nuance and not understanding, talk to your buddy Orbituary. Its a lame point made poorly, and your assigning ire to me on it is another lame point. You have yourself a nice day, and get off your dumb high horse assigning people “penance”. Who the eff do you think you are?
edit: @Monument, I do see that the pattern of your comments is exactly this in many instances-- its what you are here for, accusing people of not understanding things, then calling them names on a high horse to make yourself feel smart. This is your whole shtick. Its Pathetic and Tedious. You must be real fun in real life.
Oh, you’re right! You did jump to insults right off the bat.
Then you stalked my account to try to create more personalized attacks.
I mean, you can keep arguing but you will have to do better than to accuse me of trying to be a good person. Unless you were trying to say I’m fake, but
I actually care. And the same sort of toxic user behavior that ruined Reddit long before the administrators did is something I try to meet with good humor and a sense of silliness. Maybe the Lemmy community can keep that at bay.If your antipathy and rage at other people is such that you cannot break through it to realize someone is cracking a joke, then… I don’t know. I don’t have a constructive suggestion right now.
No joke here: Are you physically in pain? Maybe something you don’t realize is bothering you? Possibly some other drain on your psyche? You’re putting out a lot of hate for being random text in my phone.
Yes. For the dummies, you do. What is hard to understand about this? Not everybody well informed or educated enough to know what is and is not a war crime.
Attacking a reservoir is illegal (war crime) as it is a piece of civilian infrastructure. All attacks on civilian infrastructure are crimes of war and can be punished under the Geneva Conventions.
Deliberately starving a civilian population by destroying or blocking access to food, water, and other survival necessities is a war crime. This includes interfering with humanitarian relief supplies. A 2019 amendment to the Rome Statute extended this prohibition to non-international armed conflicts, closing a significant gap in the law.
Unless they can prove that the reservoir was being used as part of the military or military support operations,it’s off limits.
Isn’t Iran the one that needs to prove that it was not used as part of military operations? They are after all the ones doing the accusing.
Since the usa was in negociations and even said that it was a retaliation against the shooting for the helicopter. The principle of necessity and proportionality is not there.
and can be punished under the Geneva Conventions
Laughs in Hague invasion act
I understand that. I’m making a statement that there were no mentions of war crimes. Let’s do another round?
They bombed a reservoir.
That is a war crime.
The article doesn’t need to explicitly say “they gone and done some war crimes” for that to be the case.
Almost certain that the person you’re replying to is saying that the article should say that it’s a war crime, not that it isn’t one because the article doesn’t say so.
Ah my mistake
This exactly. For the mouth-breathers out there who don’t understand why it’s a bad idea to bomb reservoirs, it’s important to state clearly this is a war crime.
Of course, the fucking US Government has done countless war crimes and not been prosecuted. So… yeah.
I read the headline and was the same like, isn’t that a…
Okay, those laws of war run on “as long as you don’t do it, I won’t either”. America’s allies in the region also need water, what if Iran strikes at their reservoirs in retaliation? Trump may have escalated the war into terrifying new territory.
This. People forget that “war crimes” have more to do with escalation of collateral damage than anything else.
US just made it Total War, IRGC are hardcore fundamentalists, they’re not above poisoning an entire states water supply and you just gave them casus belli.
Good work Orange Man.
Uh, in case you weren’t aware, they are poisoning all of our water here in the US as well.
Israel and the US had already struck schools, hospitals, bridges, desalination plants and other civilian infrastructure. The “hardcore fundamentalists” of Iran have shown massive restraint considering what had already been done to them before the supposed ceasefire. They have more respect for the civilian life of their enemies than the US ever has in it’s history.
Exactly this. Iranians have been known to be philosophically opposed to using nuclear and chemical weapons, and attacking water supplies. Meanwhile, the US… has done and continues to do all of those.
Oh look: more war crimes.
imperialism <—> terrorism
I quess water infrastructure is on the table now. Good job, America.
Iran will offcourse retaliate by hitting the water infrastructure in the Gulf States, causing massive issues in the Arab world.
This is Russia level incompetence.
Worse than russia
Look, it’s bad, but Russia is striking civilian housing daily in Ukraine, which is impossible to even argue are strategic targets. They’re both doing bad things. Let’s just leave it at that.
The usa stroke iranian civilians daily during the war too. Billions of dollars are given to israel to commit genocide
And Russia gives (or gave, since they’re now barely able to fund their own war) billions to fund conflict too. Neither one is really above the other. The sooner we stop squabbling about our favorite nations, as if they’re sports teams, and figure out how to work together to better the regular people the better.
The sooner we stop squabbling about our favorite nations
We both do not deny that both countries are terrible so I nobody is squabbling about his favorite nations here but I am sorry but it is a fact that the USA did more damage to the world than Russia. The usa hold the title of the country who is involved in the biggest number of military coups , the title of who finance the biggest numbers of genocides and the title of the country who is involved in creating the biggest numbers of failed states.
Russia is funding the undermining of democracies all over the west (and probably elsewhere too). I disagree that either is worse. They’re nation-states. Their entire goal is power.
The US has more influence globally, so it has almost certainly done more harm, but not because it’s particularly worse. It’s only because it has the capability. Russia is managing to do as much harm as it can. They don’t give a shit about the people, let alone their people.
Russia most of time spread propaganda using social media and to undermind the so called western democracies. The united snakes most of the time fund the terrorists or help them with intel to overthrow non western so called democracies to put puppets
This is Russia level incompetence.
well when your nation becomes a vassal state to Russia, that is to be expected.
Russia’s economy is smaller than California’s, don’t be silly.
Russia doesn’t need to buy a country.
They need to buy exactly 1 person.
have you been paying attention recently?
If we’ve been paying attention, then the US is a vassal state of Israel and likes to support authoritarians globally (like Russia).
Por qué no ambos?
It’s a vassal state to any country that has acquired some unredacted files.
Huh, wouldn’t expect that from someone who regularly passes cognitive tests (/s)
Man, horse, Iran, missile
Sounds like a fun night
I do not understand why Gulf states aren’t pulling out every possible stop they have to get Trump and Israel to stop this buffoonery. Like I don’t see how any possible outcome of this war could even possibly benefit them?
The leadership is too busy being obscenely rich and banging hookers.
What levers would they pull? Most are barely more then a set of wealthy oligarchs playing at a nation. Not really having a tonne of cards to play in this stupid conflict with the us/israel and not the spine to stand up against them.
Oh but that would be “terrorism”.
Why wouldn’t other countries just not sanction us?
seriously this and the killing random people in fishing boats with no due process in international waters are war crimes.
If China, Russia, EU and everyone else said nah fuck you we won’t buy any of your shit or sell you any of our shit would that not fix the problem in like, one months time?
Seriously why isn’t this happening?? Couldn’t the ICC make its members do something like this? Or is that not how that works?
I’m just trying to understand. There must be something the world can do that doesn’t involve war why don’t they do that?
Russia is already sanctioned/sanctioning due to the Ukraine War. China maybe could, but they are more focused on renegotiating a trade deal. The EU is already in the process is strategic decoupling and can’t go that much faster. Any other country is likely going to either have enough economic consequences that they can’t afford to or are doing so little trade that it doesn’t mean anything any way.
Sadly, EU is too much depending on the US. Just think about Mastercard and Visa.
Which is currently in the process of being fixed. Just takes some time to set everything up, and get 27 countries to agree to the details.
I know, but it takes times. In the meantime we need to play cool
China and Russia are not members of the ICC.
Also most of them are pretty happy that Trump is busy bombing Iran and not them. But also all of them are lowering dependence on the US as much as possible, but are quite about it. At least the EU also does not like the Iranian regime terribly much.
I think they’re all too reliant on the US and they notice, the US kinda has them by the balls, strategically. They all seem to be quiet quitting / ghosting, and that seems to be all the power they have. What they’re doing will be felt for decades, it’s more of a slow burn, they are kinda sanctioning, in the sense of removing reliance of all US products. The US govt has built itself up as an evil superpower, with tendrils of control over other countries, military posts, strategic assassinations. What do they have on Australia, that makes them defund supports for disabled people, just to be able to bomb Iran along with the US. There’s some deep seeded control going on there, and in many other places.
Murdoch basically, and theres like 178billionaires in australia alone of 38mil people. seems AUS is a good place for billionaires to flee.
Yeah we need to change that!
What do they have on Australia, that makes them defund supports for disabled people
Are you talking about the NDIS, or the DSP?
Ndis.
Why wouldn’t other countries just not sanction us?
Because the vast majority of countries are dependent on the USAs financial system, odds are very good your country is dependent on that same system in thousands of ways. Especially Europe.
They hate America even as they depend upon it… and it’s even worse than that, as the USA is controlled by banking interests that have been around since the slavery days. Should America disappear tomorrow, another “financial center” will replace it, it’s an international web of financial interests.
Their only goal is profit, national concerns are irrelevant to them.
The USA is not part of the ICC and does not recognize its jurisdiction.
https://asp.icc-cpi.int/states-parties
These are the states that signed the Rome Statute.
I know that and about the Hague act thing basically saying they will invade if they ever try to do something but if they did invade them that would be WW3 surely so that has to be a bluff.
I guess I couldn’t expect them to force other countries to isolate the USA economically but damn it would be awesome if they had the power
American exceptionalism is a cancer and must be stamped out.
Exchanging one hegemony for another.
China hasn’t dropped a bomb in 50 years. How many bombs over how many countries has the US bombed since then?
The U.S. is very powerful. It has the third biggest population in the world and has a lot of economic influence, including all the damage trump has done to it.
I guess the closest thing to this that’s happening is BRICS and their efforts to do less international trade in dollars. De-dollarization freaks out the US ruling class, so you know it’s a good thing. Just wish it would happen faster.
I love America. Every time I see them helping kill someone I get a boner!!! /s
Humanitarian law is also designed to protect civilian objects, including those indispensable to the survival of the civilian population. Article 29 of the Convention on the law relating to the non-navigational uses of international watercourses [available on http://www.un.org/], adopted by the General Assembly of the United Nations in 1997, stipulates:
“International watercourses and related installations, facilities and other works shall enjoy the protection accorded by the principles and rules of international law applicable in international and non-international armed conflict and shall not be used in violation of those principles and rules”.
General protection under the law applicable to armed conflicts extends to more than international watercourses, and the four main prohibitions laid down in that law are worth noting:
the ban on employing poison or poisonous weapons; the ban on destroying, confiscating or expropriating enemy property; the ban on destroying objects indispensable to the survival of the civilian population; the ban on attacking works or installations containing dangerous forces.
The four prohibitions, to which should be added the provisions on environmental protection, are expressly mentioned in the instruments relating to international armed conflicts, and the last two are also laid down in the law applicable to non-international armed conflicts. Starvation as a method of warfare is explicitly prohibited regardless of the nature of the conflict, and the concept of objects essential for the survival of the civilian population includes drinking-water installations and supplies and irrigation works. Immunity for indispensable objects is waived only when these are used solely for the armed forces or in direct support of military action. Even then, the adversaries must refrain from any action which could reduce the population to starvation or deprive it of essential water.
https://casebook.icrc.org/case-study/water-and-armed-conflicts
fresh war crimes. The US needs to sign onto the ICC so our leaders can go explain themselves in court.
Really pushing for that Greatest Satan moniker.
Ukraine destroys russian refineries…
And to stop that happening all Russia has to do is go home. It’s not complex which really calls into question the intelligence of those who won’t understand it.
Ahhh yes, those refineries that are essential to human life. That’s definitely a fair comparison to depriving people of water in a desert country.
Russia destroys Ukrainian power plant.
If Iran bombed the US/their allies we wouldn’t complain because they’re not the aggressor.
Hey this happened in Spec Ops the Line
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I don’t understand how people can follow a command like this and then go home and sleep at night.
This is literally what the US has been doing for 70 years.
Doesn’t change the question.
The answer is propaganda.
Well as a subordinate who is given illegal orders they’re kind of fucked there’s no good choice so that’s why it was so important for commanders to only issue legal orders. So they don’t put their men in a bad legal situation.
If a solider doesn’t follow the command they’re given probably going to be found guilty of insubordination, regardless of whether it is illegal or not. They’ll probably be called a criminal, lose all the benefits that come from service, or possibly be executed according to this administration.
If a soldier follows illegal orders like these then they can be charged as war criminals and executed.
The ONLY way to be able to refuse illegal orders is to have an enormous amount of support from other soldiers and the judge advocate General’s office. Which are resources your average soldier doesn’t have. Yes the Uniform Code of Military Justice says following illegal orders is illegal but the reality is very different.
People with thoughtful morals don’t join the military. Sociopaths, moral LARPers, and desperate people do.
The targets that were hit are not being reported in the US at all as far as I can tell.
Just “strikes in Southern Iran”.
