• Kairos@lemmy.today
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    2 months ago

    We are undeniably better off because of the industrial revolution. It’s caused problems but those are well worth it for the benefit.

    • Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 months ago

      Right now*

      We’ve almost caused, and now will forever have the capacity to cause, a mass extinction event with nuclear bombs. If the cold war had turned hot we probably wouldn’t be saying how good we have it in the industrial age compared to the agrarian age.

      There’s also the more slow motion extinction event in the form of climate change.

      But yes for those living in the west from 1950 ~ 2150 it’s a good deal

      • HasturInYellow@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        We are currently experiencing a mass extinction event on a similar scale but greater speed than the Permian mass extinction.

        CURRENTLY. It is getting worse.

    • binux@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Only if you’re basing your assertion on inherently biased criteria. For many in the west it’s better sure, but what about the majority of people in impoverished countries, or less fortunate people in general? How about non-human species that have been losing their natural habitats to pollution and global warming inch by inch, or just human interference in general? Or even species that have been outright driven to extinction by human activity?

      I’m not so sure any of that is worth it for a new smart phone every year with only marginally better features. And I hear the new hyped-up technology is pretty much the epitome of an infinite amount of monkeys on typewriters desperate to type up Shakespeare.

      • Miaou@jlai.lu
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        2 months ago

        Of course these people benefited too. Why do you demography in Asia/Africa boomed over the last century?

        • HasturInYellow@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          Are you sure? There are an order of magnitude more people around now. And most are still not doing great. So now we have a massive explosion in the net amount of suffering in order to boost the joy of a few people by a few bits.

        • binux@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          2 months ago

          Again, that’s only from your (biased) viewpoint. I’m sure you or I can say that with relatively little consideration from our cushy positions in wealthy countries, but try and get, say, the average Sudanese citizen to agree with that. It’s really not gonna work.

          Plus to agree with your sentiment is to say that capitalism is worth the suffering it causes. I’m gonna have to disagree with that on principle.

  • huquad@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    2 months ago

    In the beginning the Universe was created. This had made many people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.

    • A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      His MKULTRA handler gave it to him

      “Hey Big Ted how’s your brain feeling”

      “Good enough to mostly make sense” Industrial Society and its Future

  • snoons@lemmy.caEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Ironic that someone put this on vehicle powered by gasoline but I suppose that’s the crux of the issue; we can just ignore the consequences of our actions as long is doesn’t immediately effect us. In this case they’re part of the cohort of people that drive to work everyday and indirectly cause the deaths of hundreds of millions of poor people on the other side of the world that they inherently don’t give shit about. Mostly in Africa and India, who gives a fuck about them right?

  • nexguy@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Mentally diseased woman hating racist antI-semite incel who unapologetically killed innocent people says “fuck the system” and that’s what anyone focuses on?

  • over_clox@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Fun fact: You wouldn’t be driving behind them or honking your horn if it wasn’t for the industrial revolution.

    The more you know…

    • NotSteve_@lemmy.ca
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      2 months ago

      You wouldn’t be driving […]

      God that’d have been nice. I rarely drive my car but even that’s too much for me. "Hi, yes I would love to sit still staring at another car’s bumper for long periods of time where not focusing entirely could kill myself and others. I LOVE being required by urban planning to do that and LOVE being required to spend tens of thousands on maintaining the luxury of it

      • autriyo@feddit.org
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        2 months ago

        I fortunately am not dependent on cars for my daily transportation. I’ve barely driven in my life, don’t even have a licence, but I love road trips and driving in simulations.

        But not moving at all, or relatively to dense traffic is not what I like about that, driving as mass transportation sucks.

  • potoooooooo 🥔@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    I read his writing for the first time recently. It certainly sticks with you. He was certainly no dummy. I still take issue with some of his stances. Big of me, I know.

      • potoooooooo 🥔@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 months ago

        Also his entire argument, which is pretty well-structured, completely hinges on certain things he just takes for granted. Namely, that the number of people that would be harmed by his approach might be far greater than continuing on this current path. I don’t know whether he’s right or wrong about that, but it’s PRETTY CRUCIAL, and I feel there’s tons of room for nuance. He, in his frustration, seemingly reduced the potential deaths of tens of millions (if not more) to, “Eh. Fuck it, it’s probably better,” best I can tell. He offers plenty of diagnoses, but no real remedies or cures.

  • ol_capt_joe@piefed.eeEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Industrial revolution stands on the shoulders of a giant called the agricultural revolution.

    I brake for hunter gatherers.