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I thing losing $400b will greatly help to put china in its place
Show china youre the boss by taking hong kong back and making it independent
And protecting them and taiwan
Hong Kong, the city that Britain commandeered from the Chinese?
How exactly will they do that? Theyd need boots on the ground to “take back” Hong Kong 😂
Rhodesia is that way → …oops, too soon?
Yeah, sometimes I feel like we should just get it over with and start global thermonuclear war for no reason too. Just end it all, you know?
We had a good run, it’s time for the mole people to have a chance.
We’ve got enough C.H.U.D’s on the surface already, lol
by taking hong kong back
And returning it to British imperial rule?
This plan is around 100 years out of date
Why are you arguing for recolonization of Hong Kong and Taiwan?
Drop the cheese is not doing you well.
I’d put money on China being able to pwn the USA with the click of a button. We know about salt typhoon, and there’s been documented backdoors in IoT devices and some Unitree bots. Imagine all the things we don’t know about. Especially regarding power generation and general aging infrastructure.
An open conflict between the US and china would probably end with exactly zero winners and an uninhabitable glowing piece of rock orbiting the sun. Maybe the cockroaches can then find a better path to communism.
I feel like nukes are more just showpieces than item that anyone actually considers using.
Japan used to think that too
Honestly i don’t think you are completely wrong. Most of the reason for having massive nuclear weapon inventory comes as a mean to dissuasion. However that doesn’t necessarily mean they will never be used, just suggests it would not be like the apocalyptic war everyone thinks.
probably depends on whose soil it’s on and whether or not it’s a proxy war and/or world war.
Buddy, I could tell you that based on the fact that they’ve lost every single war they’ve been in since WWII.
Tell that to Saddam and Gaddafi.
No, but the resulting insurgency forced America out in retreat? Do you think America won’t he Iraq war lmao?
1st Iraq was a clear win, both militarily and strategically. 2nd Iraq and Libya were strategic victories because the real purpose was to maintain the petrodollar, which was attained.
Actually the reason your government gave was to get the weapons of mass destruction from Saddam, which was proven to be a lie, so how did you win an illegal war based on fake goals?
You believe US when they state the war reasons and goals? Lol, lmao even. They achieved a real war goal of stopping Iraq and Libya from breaking dollar monopoly on oil sale.
Also it’s not my government, my government was actually quite honest, they admitted they went there to bootlick USA and loot Iraq.
Uhh no, I’m saying they didn’t win the war because they couldn’t meet their stated goals, I wouldn’t trust that country as far as I could throw it.
My bad for assuming, btw.
Do you think Saddam’s government won? The US won the war with Iraq if not the war with the insurgency.
I think nobody won, but the US especially didn’t win.
Ok so you can’t win a war if it wasn’t clean and easy? And since when has the publicly stated justification for a war ever had anything to do with who won? Lots of wars start with false justifications.
Show me a reputable source that claims the US won the war. The 20 year war, of a superpower, VS a small middle eastern country.
It is absolutely maddening to see American pundits defend every dumbshit, ruinous, genocidal policy over the last twenty years by pointing at China and claiming, “We had to show them we were the boss”.
From AI to A-bombs, there’s nothing you can’t get away with by insisting “China Bad! This will stop them!”
It’s a very convenient go-to excuse. And as long as the American public keeps lapping it up, those in power will keep counting on it.
We are operating from a position of strength!
They can’t admit the only reason has been “Money!”
And not even the country’s, just that of a few old pedophiles trying to rape some life out of children in a vain attempt to feel youth again before the grave takes them
China and Iran are allies.
If the US and China go to war Iran will close the strait to their enemies. And we’ve seen the US is impotent to that and overly reliant on oil.
I think China just has to deal with a first strike from the US and then wait for an impotent United States to fall apart and starve.
I think your last point is pretty accurate. The US side has done a bunch of war games for a Taiwan invasion situation. In these games, the US side barely wins. To me, that’s evidence the US probably loses. All of the Chinese decision making is done by US military people that think like the US military. If the PLA acts differently, they could easily be in a better position. Also, the Chinese capabilities will be based on US intelligence. Unless the Pentagon knows everything about missile ranges, warhead sizes, magazine depth, aircraft speeds and ranges, etc, they won’t be able to anticipate a capability they didn’t know about.
Probably most importantly, China has a vast industrial base and would be much closer to the fighting. All they really have to do is use up the US missile stockpiles and shoot down a few planes (probably while they’re just parked in Okinawa). Once the war becomes about who can manufacture more missiles and planes to replace losses, there’s no way the US will be able to keep up. If it becomes a protracted war, the US loses by default.
Edit: also, I’m not so sure Iran would close the straight. But I don’t think it would matter because part of the US plans involve closing the Malaca straight to starve the Chinese of oil. They’ll do it themselves.
Remember folks, the guy is a master of the deal
hey usa, china is building tons of high-speed rail. they’re the leaders in decarbonizing their energy mix. they’re building tons of housing to handle population growth. they’re financing infrastructure projects in the global south. why not try beating them at all that?
no? just wars again? okay.
Chinese people own their homes too
Even with more property rights. If you own a house and you don’t want to sell it when they want to build a new highway, they build the highway surrounding your house, instead of expropriating you like in western countries.
Tell that to the farmhouse in the middle of the M62.
Fascinating as it may be, that’s a pretty horrible picture.
Imagine living that house. It’s a pretty stark demonstration of the state gets what it wants, one way or another.
Should have taken the settlement.
That’s why it’s important to recognize that the state serves its ruling class, which in China’s case is the proletariat. That’s why they are far more leniant and even allowed this situation in the first place.
tbh living there in the middle of a highway would be hell
it is disappointing how despite how ahead china is in terms of public transit, they still build car-centric infrastructure like this. at least, unlike north america, shitty car-centric infrastructure is not all there is lol
If you’ll notice, it’s a 4 lane highway, which is medium level traffic, because most people take the train or electric scooters. In America this would be an 8 lane highway or bigger.
I’ve never had to use the term ‘Passive-Aggressive Infrastructure’ before but I’m here for it and loving it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spite_house
Spite houses, but I like yours, too
Not quite the same as it was to do with the landscape, but one of my personal favourites:
China couldn’t give a shit about supposed US deterrence.
Henry knows that, he also knows that China receives the largest share of oil exports passing through the Strait of Hormuz, accounting for 37.7% of the trade route’s total volume.
That is why they had their own blockade.And yet oil prices in China did not move once during the entirety of the US’ bitchfit.
So…
So China compensated from other sources?
Used alternative energy sources?
Used reserves?It proves only that the US plan failed.
That doesn’t negate their motivesThe US didn’t have a plan, lmao. Israel convinced them that Iran would fall in days or weeks. Israel is a bloodthirsty settler colonial project and Americans are removed. A match made in heaven.
naive and simplistic
Should be tattooed on your forehead.
I find that hard to believe, since the prices rose everywhere in the world, proof?
Literally any news source. Here’s one. But every one has wrote about how “China has confounded analysts”
Okay, fine, but this report says nothing about prices for consumers.
I think Americans should ban debate clubs. Clearly they’re only teaching how to create mental convolutions instead of creating sound arguments.
Oh no, debate clubs are actually very good at teaching kids how to discern good information from bad, and how to make proper arguments with supporting evidence. Right wing media teaches gish gallop and never be wrong, it’s these two ideas that have taken over discourse.
I will have to take your word on that. Got to admit my opinion is based on a limited set of people I had the displeasure of interacting with.
Americans should consider doing mathematical convolution instead. Very important for functional analysis with deep connections to the Laplace, and thus Fourier, transforms.
Unironically many debate clubs practice and teach this
So you’re saying distracting Americans from the Epstein files had nothing to do with it? LOLOL
Americans famously can’t hold more than one idea at time, if Trump shit his pants tomorrow the entire investigation of Epstein is gone.
Please president, hold your shit!!!
Americans famously can’t hold more than one idea at time
This but unironically.
liberals are perpetually born-yesterday.
Yep, the Americans totally were on the verge of doing something about the Epstein files, but then that dastardly Trump figured out a way to distract them!
Ah yes, Henry Gao the race traitor. Heh.
Oh no, not 2 summer holidays!
🎶We’ve only just beguuuuuun🎶
The US is basically a “this is good for bitcoin”, but as a country.
Its slow, humiliating, public suicide is even more pathetic than great britain’s.
I, for one, think it’s funny.
How can people be so delusional?
“When their salary depends on it” is a decent first answer.
