New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani, once a figure of contention among leaders from both major political parties, has seen a remarkable surge in his political standing just six months into office.
The 34-year-old democratic socialist, a prominent figure on the progressive left, has garnered unexpected praise from both Donald Trump and New York Governor Kathy Hochul.
He has also emerged as the face of the region’s sports renaissance. Now, days before New York’s primary elections,
Progressives have been hoping for someone like Mamdani to actually win an election for a long time, now. If he is what finally instigates a break in the wall the Democratic party has erected, it’s not surprising that others are picking up their sledgehammers.
But leftists are both useless and totally destructive at the same time according to neo-liberals.
I hope this brings enough change to make the Democrats actually progressive instead of giving lips service to it then doubling down on corporatism.
There are Leftists in this thread who are saying Mamdani’s no good because he hasn’t done everything he promised.
It won’t be easy. We must keep getting progressives in office if you want more than lip service.
the Democratic Party is a lot less monolithic than people make it out to be, it’s just that a lot of influential people in the back end have been fighting to keep progressives out, arguing that they needed to stay close to republicans to win “moderate” voters.
More visible progressive wins will erode that narrative and allow various parts of the coalition to abandon the neoliberal orthodoxy imposed on them by corporate consultants. We can’t get anywhere untill that dead weight is dropped. Maybe the Democratic Party won’t be the one to adapt to the new conditions, maybe something new will take their place, but nothing is going to happen till that narrative is dead.
The Democratic Party has HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of politicians in it. From far left to center right.
Leftists already attacked him for not firing the cops involved in last winter’s snowball fight.
Lmfao.
Damn, almost like, there was some sort of third party candidate splitting the vote in his election.
Or the fact that people are idiots and a large % only vote every 4 years
Kind of proving my point there.
People had a choice between a known molester, an idiot, and the Democratic Socialist and the DS barely edged through.
It’s almost as if the progressives don’t have a commanding majority and have to work with others if they want to advance.
I mean, he still won a significant majority even with the vote split. And he won a majority In precincts that trump won In the election.
A more interesting question is, if there had been a been serious candidate to the left of Harris in the general election, would she have polled more like coumo did?
I don’t think it’s safe to assume that she would have won more votes than mamadani did in the same situation. And comparing the outcomes of a national 2 candidate race to a local 3 candidate race is not really telling you anything unless you introduce the counterfactuals and do polling to fill in those gaps.
Right now we’re seeing a lot of polling showing democrat socialists candidates outperforming corporate democrats in a lot of battle ground and purplish red states. Arguably attempting to appeal to coumo type voters damaged Harris’s chances In battle ground states by alienating unaffiliated voters.
Could just tell them what’s been told to progressives for decades, “Vote blue no matter who.”
I can’t think of one time in recent US history that a 3rd Party candidate split the ticket and hut the GOP.
In fact, the GOP regularly throws money to the Libertarians and/or the greens if they think it will help them.
If people had voted blue we might not have the Supreme Court that threw out Roe V. Wade.
You might want to read up on Frederick Douglas. In 1860 he had a choice of supporting a strong Abolitionist or Abe Lincoln. Lincoln had repeatedly said that he would keep slavery if it meant keeping the Union together.
Douglas knew all the horrors of slavery first hand, and knew that it made more sense to win and be on the inside than to lose and no be heard.
Ross Perot in '92 maybe?
We have a real bad “No True Scotsman” problem
I edited my comment to point out that Mamdani got fewer votes than Harris did when she ran in NYC, and Harris did worse against Trump than Biden did.
People vastly overestimate how popular their positions really are
lol You mean a presidential race got more votes than a mayoral race? Ya don’t say?
Mamdani got 51% of the vote going against sex criminal Cuomo and shock jock Silwa.
Harris got about 65% of the NYC vote.
No way can you pretend that ‘the Left’ beat the dems.
Because general elections historically always have higher turn out. I think that’s what they’re trying to get at specifically.
Mamdani got 51% of the vote going against sex criminal Cuomo and shock jock Silwa.
That’s still over 9% more than the runner up got.
In a three way election.
Without the support of his own party.
With tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars spent on 24/7 smear campaigns against him by both major parties.
With a unanimous local billionaire-owned media alliance fearmongering about him.
While spending a total of $10.7m
Compared to all that, the unequivocal DNC leader getting 65% in a presidential election where 100% of the party political machine was behind her and they’d spent over a billion dollars is absolutely PATHETIC.
Who cares if the Dems go progressive? It’s the voters who are important. The Republicans kept resisting the rising far right movements like the Tea Party, and then MAGA, but the voters just bulldozed right over them.
The corporatist establishment Democrats all made it extremely clear that they would prefer a corrupt asshole like Adams for Mayor, but the people told them to go fuck themselves, and now the DNC has no choice but to get on board.
The voters don’t have to do what the DNC demands, but the DNC has to live with whoever the voters force upon them.
The DNC has been pretty progressive for about 16 years.
The DNC will continue to ratfuck progressives in primaries and has historically burned down the house before letting progressives take over.
Like Bernie and Hillary.
I hope this brings enough change to make the Democrats actually progressive instead of giving lips service to it then doubling down on corporatism.
Its hilarious how people think this is even practically possible
We’re literally talking about a progressive that just became the mayor of the city that is at the very heart of American finance and capitalism. AOC could get elected president and you would still be saying it’s not practical.
AOC is a zionist, who cares?
Literally, not with that attitude
attitude doesnt matter, its just not possible practically.
True leftists, like any medium-small minority, can make or break any coalition of medium-small minorities. And likewise, they can’t really direct policy all on their own, because the rest of the minorities in the coalition aren’t on board yet. One minority can’t make it, but they can break it.
I also hope this brings progressivism to the Democratic party. That would be a good way to bring more of the coalition on board.
Thank you!
The thing that drives me crazy is when progressives act like they have a massive majority of the people behind them.
Back in the day, Jerry Falwell leveraged his Moral Majority into power by sending his church people into every local GOP club.
If the usual attendance was twenty folks, the MMs would show up with fifty. They might only have fifty followers in the whole town, but all of them were there where it counted.
Democrats are plenty progressive, Mamdani’s policy stances are pretty normal, but without state and federal majorities we’re not gonna see fuck all for change.
As he should. We need to take any populist progressive momentum we have and use it to run the Democrats out of town. Along with the republicans. The two parties are just a black hole of corporate money.
Because, you know, he has and will continue to reject that money. Because he is so great and has such great ethics and morals…
Totally wouldn’t become the exact same thing. Or worse.
I have a horrible feeling he’s going to be assassinated in the not-too-distant future. I really hope I’m wrong.
This is how MAGA took over the republicans.
Now we just have to convince leftists to get out and vote in the primaries and generals which might be a chore.
That’s not enough. They’re going to cheat in every way possible. They’ve been telegraphing it for months.
But he’s not the right flavour of Democratic Socialist.
Sorry but it’s four more years of fascism. I don’t make the rules.
Except the leftists did vote that’s why he’s there? Maybe it’s because he wasn’t a shit tier neo-liberal candidate like the Democrats have put up in the last election.
He was up against Cuomo in NYC.
I’m pretty sure Hitler could run as a democrat there and win.
Kamala Harris received 1,748,140 votes in New York City,
Zohran Mamdani received 1,036,051 votes
I imagine you’ll struggle to find any locally elected politician anywhere who got a bigger turnout than that for the presidential race.
There were early voting options in that election.
Mamdani was very lucky because the incumbent, Adams, got caught in a major scandal before the election.
But even running against a know sex offender and a radio DJ he only garnered 51% of the vote.
Things are different now that he’s been elected, but let’s not pretend that he was swept in by a giant Progressive wave.
Sex offender and a radio dj… Do you not know Trump is president?
So you agree? That progressives aren’t that popular in america?
Which is odd, considering how much local law affects you
They hate this fact. Mamdani only got 50% in deep blue NYC
Kamala did worse than Biden in New York. She won, but people looked at Trump and a Black woman and chose the rapist.
Mamdani is doing better than I’d have hoped for, but we’re still deep, deep in the woods. Now isn’t the time to start demanding perfection.
Don’t forget Curtis “I’m Walkin’ Here!” Sliwa
Cousin Nicky!
With seven percent of the vote I’m pretty sure he forgets about himself.
no real “leftist” would ever vote for the genocidal democrats
Are you intentionally proving his point?
just stating facts.
You defile the word “fact” with this usage
And that’s why the US marches ever to the right
No, you cant defeat right wing by votes. The US is marching right because its the logical conclusion of capitalism and american society. It has nothing to do with not voting democrats
No, you cant defeat right wing by votes.
Not just wrong, insanely wrong. That’s exactly how it’s done. You can’t do it overnight if that’s how you mean.
It has never happened and it never will.
Uhh…what has never happened?
Also wrong.
no
I mean this guy does have a profile pic of Mao lmao
“forgot to attach gigachad”
I think this depends on what moral framework you have
not voting for rabid capitalist, imperialist, zionist party is the bottom line for being a leftist.
`yess
go ahead and organize, buddy.
I am.
You know how many comments I’ve seen from lefties calling him a liberal plant? Never gonna happen.
The only thing leftists are good for is destroying their own chances of creating a political party then blaming the liberals for it.
So you’re a righty?
No just a realist.
Ahh, white man over 50.
Amazing.
Sexist, racist and ageist in five words while also being completely wrong.
Then stop acting like an old white man screaming at clouds and blaming the liberals
Not, you know, workers rights, the weekend, higher wages, greater social mobility, higher standards of living, higher wages etc?
Try listing an accomplishment from the last seventy-five years.
Where did those goal posts go?
What was the most recent accomplishment of the six that you listed?
How about China lifting 100 million people out of poverty in 10 years between 2010 and 2020? Seems pretty significant if you ask me.
And we all know how well Lemmy comments represent real life lmao
I haven’t seen that at all
Try reloading the comments for this very thread then, because it’s like half the comments here
I see literally one downvoted comment
Can you tell me his accomplishments?
You cant convince me that you haven’t seen article after article of shit he’s doing and just decided not to click it. Do a Google search troll.
Can you not be a little shit for two seconds?
In a sea of shity news, why do you have to be the turd that makes it’s way into the punch bowl as it just tries to stay afloat on the surface?
Are you a plant? Trying to creative division?
I’ll take any good news in the leftward direction over the waterfall of bad news we scroll through everyday.
Grow-up. Stop fighting with people who agree with you on the big picture stuff.
Do you really think being a little shit to someone after telling them not to be a little shit is going to make them care about anything you say?
Just makes me feel more justified tbh. Thanks
I didnt say it for you.
I said it for anyone else reading this far down the thread.
So your toxicity has some level of counterbalance.
So some people can realize we can disagree but still work together.
Because the only way you get what you want is by working for it. Not spitting in people’s eye when they’re already feeling hopeless.
Toxicity is subjective.
People who are toxic say shit like that.
More justified to keep being a little shit? Weird take.
Maybe just stop being a shit.
After you.
Fixed the NYC budget within 100 days of taking office.
Got shitty landlords to fix thousands of apartments.
Didn’t bend the knee to wealthy people.
Doesn’t talk in empty platitudes like the typical DNC centrist Zionist.
Prove thousands of apartments are fixed.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/zohran-mamdani-rent-forgiveness
He didn’t just fix them but he got the tenants paid.
Did you try doing a web search or are you just trolling?
You wouldn’t look at the proof and just ask another loaded question and move the goalposts anyway
A list of items isn’t proof. It’s asking for sources. Which they did. Thanks for your input.
feel free to believe/not believe on the small changes users are seeing here
“Which they did”
Did you forget to switch account?
No it’s your turn to give proof, prove that no apartments are fixed.
Since you believe everything you (want to) hear without question, that should be pretty easy lol
I would say this answer is exactly what I expected to get, a total nothing burger.
I would have been surprised if you actually had something to say other than Mamdani = bad.
Just out of interest which side of the spectrum are you from, is he not communist enough or do you have problems with his race?
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Fixed the NYC budget within 100 days of taking office.
Importantly, he did it without reducing services or raising taxes.
Didn’t he do it by messing with pensions down the line instead?
Balanced budget. Massive improvements in roads and transit. Helping fix food “desserts”, etc.
Deserts ≠ desserts
Clearly you haven’t tried my wife’s baking.
As long as he does progressive things, cool, but I think he’s a plant to the stark contrast that is DJT. American politics just don’t change.
Got anything to back that up?
Nope, it’s all opinion based on his interactions between high level individuals. Last time I posted my opinion on it the moderators here removed it as conspiracy theories - which is valid, as they are that.
Planted by whom? The democrat establishment that dragged their feet on giving him any support whatsoever? The republicans who were urging their own candidate to drop out in order to give Cuomo an edge? High roller donors who were desperately trying to prop Cuomo up? Seems like the entire establishment across the political spectrum was against Mamdami. The wealthy and powerful clearly did not want him in office, I don’t think there was some 5D chess gambit behind their opposition.
We must have watched different mayorital races. Cuomo very much phoned in the whole run and was showing up just to show up. He also netted less donations than both Mamdani and his previous mayor run (~$40 mill difference [2018], which may as well be $40 dollars). Since then Mamdani has very much gotten the Obama treatment. I very much suspect he’s going to run for President in my lifetime and win. I also very much think he’s a manchurian candidate.
I don’t think he would be a bad president by any means - I’d vote for him, like I don’t think he’s going to turn heel and we all find out he’s republican or anything, I think it’s just part of balancing the status quo being upkept in American Politics.
I very much suspect he’s going to run for President in my lifetime and win.
Isn’t he born in Uganda, disqualifying him from being a candidate for President?
TIL - Conspiracy Theory Debunk’d. Thanks for the realization.
He’s six months in and like ⅔ of the way through his campaign promises. And that’s with standing against ICE and dealing with both an extreme winter and and extreme summer. He defeated multiple establishment-backed candidates. And he’s managed to do this all without any major scandal.
Plus, if this is a psyop by the right, it’s absolutely backfiring. Mamdani is showing the electorate how a government can work for its people. That’s good for people, but terrible for the establishment.
I realize where the cynicism comes from, but “just don’t change” is always true right up until it isn’t.
I agree and hope you’re right.
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You’re not going to get leftist polices from democrats. Vote left.
I’m not an American, so I could be incredibly wrong here, but don’t you have a two party system? If you don’t vote Democrat, who do you vote for?
The person you replied to is trying to help make things even worse. Especially in a post about primaries, which Are the opportunities to make things better.
The US has over 50 parties, depending on where you vote.
Democrat, Republican, Green, Libertarian, Constitution, Peace and Freedom, No Labels, Progressive, Socialist, etc
Then why do I only ever see ® or (D) behind names in your government? Why don’t I hear about the Green party candidate for Senate, or the Libertarian in a state legislature? I mean, you say there are other parties, but if they exist surely someone from one of them has made it into the government of a state or to the federal level at some point.
Not trying to be argumentative here, just trying to understand.
You’re probably watching shitty corporate news that’s intentionally trying to tell their viewers that the only option is the 1 party (both democrats and republican parties are nearly identical when you zoom out to include progressive policies)
The US has great independent media. Try reading something run by a nonprofit that does not take money from corporate sponsors.
CBC BBC Reuters…
And it’s not just them, but those tend to be my primary y news sources.
Diversion aside, can you name any examples of non Democrat or Republican legislators at the state or federal level?
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This is not true for voters who have rank choice
They are relevant only if they can act as spoilers for one of the big two parties.
He’s a DSA member! I’d call him a DINO if he wasn’t evidently reshaping it.
I’ll vote third party as soon as the next guy, but if the Democrats decide to run an actually good candidate, then I’m not holding a grudge.
Zohran Mamdani is reshaping the Democratic Party In New York faster than anyone expected
FTFT. If he can spur change in the country, excellent. Democrats in Idaho still have to work with Idahoans. They don’t care about the Nicks.
Just saying - red states are still red states. New York wasn’t that kind of red.
They don’t care about the Nicks
I’m guessing you don’t either? New York Knicks
Oops. I thought that looked funny. Eh, whatever.
Republicans, propping up Mamdani?
Interesting strategy. But you know what they say, never interrupt your enemy while they’re making a fatal mistake.
Let’s hope it works out EXACTLY as well for them as Hillary’s Pied Piper strategy of boosting Trump did!
Optimal tip-to-tip efficiency?
Love him!
Seems pretty good
We can only hope that this is true. I’ll buy it when I see it in Illinois.
Electing someone who is actually DOING STUFF for the city he’s elected to run? I mean, yeah we should totally hate that. 😩
electing someone who even understands what their job even is seems to be a welcome change. Schumer claims his whole job is keeping the dems in line with what a foreign power wants. And a bunch of Dems in congress seem to agree. Thats not their job at all. And that rot goes top to bottom through both parties. The president and judiciary also dont seem to understand what their jobs are anymore. Cops too, no frickin idea what they do exactly.
Cops document events and threaten violence. Well, instigate violence as well, but only the Rotten Apples™.
TBF he’s renegged on a lot of his plans and watered down all of his enacted ones.
Pretty normal for the DNC.
Yeah, wtf is wrong with Mamdani.
Doesnt he know hes supposed to make big promises, then do none of it while giving handies to CEOs in his office before selling his citizens out for literal pennies per person?
Good and carry on. The USA needs a progressive left president too.
We truly is reshaping and healing the state of NYC.
