• TootSweet@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    Is “how much I would like them on a scale from 0 to 10 (with a resolution of like 0.01) if I got to know them at a deep level” allowed? Or is that cheating?

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      17 days ago

      What’s the point though? We already know the worst offenders without this special power and not a fucking thing is being done about it.

      Edit: I misunderstood the question. I thought it was for everyone to be able to see it. Yeah, this would be a good one to have to know who to avoid…

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        17 days ago

        Well, now you have to cone up with a bunch of excuses for why you’re avoiding people who looked normal to everyone else.

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      17 days ago

      Monkey paw’s finger curls: You can see them. They’re EVERYWHERE. People you thought you knew and loved have numbers greater than zero over their head. Despite your horror, you try to make use of the power to try to bring them to justice. No one believes you. You have the Cassandra’s curse of the status quo. ‘Steve? What are you talking about? He’d never do anything like that. Butter wouldn’t melt. You should probably shut your mouth before we get offended about what you said about our friend and kick the shit out of you. Know what I mean?’ You watch the news and see everyone who has a position of power over you and your loved ones has a non-zero number. You try to escape into fictional media but your favorite actors are non-zeroes, the author pictures in your favorite books show non-zeroes, the album sleeves of your favorite bands show non-zeroes.

      Knowledge can be a burden.

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            17 days ago

            I heard in america, that FBI says there are few serial killers around that never get caught. They probably have a system or lack thereof.

            Some media sources have cited estimates suggesting there may be 25 to 50 active serial killers in the United States at a given time, though the FBI has stated that the true number cannot be quantified.

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              17 days ago

              Yes, there’s no real chance they’ve all been caught. I’d guess risk increases with rate of killing, though, and the status of their victims.

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              15 days ago

              Given that most solved murders are cases where the victim knew the killer, go out and kill random people with non zero values. Spread it around.

              You may eventually get caught. How many is enough to say it was worth it?

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        15 days ago

        Sow the seeds of suspicion. “Bet he is a pedo”. Don’t be too pushy. But maybe it will help someone speak out?

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        17 days ago

        Then as you live in horror and disgust, you see people’s numbers rise day after day, unable to prove to others their horrendous crimes.

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          And then you befriend a stranger on the internet. You are nervous at first but you can’t see them, so you can imagine their number is zero. You hit it off. They’re amazing. Funny. Sweet. Kind. Hardworking. The relationship turns into a distant romance. Then you finally meet. You had no idea the number could go that high.

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            15 days ago

            Or… you meet up and are flabbergasted by their ZERO. You could not be happier. You get extremely close, get married, have a child together… twins! You’re out overnight with friends, and your partner’s friend comes to visit. You return the next day to find the kids sleeping in and your beloved and their friend having a nice brunch, laughing with each other gleefully with the number two over each of their heads.

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            15 days ago

            Or x2

            You meet up for the first time in real life, and they do not have a number. How could this be? EVERYONE has a number, thank the gods they’re almost always zero! You’re immediately suspicious of their intentions and past actions. They’re not acting anything like they did online… they’re actually acting really fuckin weird, which greatly discomforts you.

            You grapple with this internal conundrum, but you had failed to notice something crucial: The instant you saw each other, their eyes so briefly darted up, looking above your head.

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      17 days ago

      Jeeeesus Christ! I was thinking like “farts per day” or “no-blinker lane change count”. You’re going straight to the show.

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      17 days ago

      When I was a kid I was once horribly racist to someone but I… was really bad at it? I didn’t know any slurs I don’t think, so I said “at least I’m not black” (the girl was Asian). Still feel bad about it though :( Not seen her for decades.

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      17 days ago

      aw man that would be rough for those of us who were raised by terrible people but learned how to be a better human

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      17 days ago

      Similar to the other reply, it’s a good idea and seemingly pragmatic, but we could spend a decade arguing over the pedantry of what qualifies as a lie and still not be done.

      Truth is tricky

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        16 days ago

        “You are a king, then!” said Pilate.

        Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. In fact, the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.”

        “What is truth?” retorted Pilate. With this he went out again to the Jews gathered there and said, “I find no basis for a charge against him.

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        17 days ago

        How about any statement told with the intent of the recipient believing something about the world that the speaker knows to not be true

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          17 days ago

          That’s a very good angle, honing in on exactly the problem of lying.

          “Intent” could get just as tricky. With all the various forms of psychosis, delusion, etc. it’d be tough to say whether someone “meant” to do something. (It’s trickier than we’d usually like to admit even for a typical person.)

          The same kind of problems exist around whether the speaker “knows” something to be false.

          Then there’s the problem of fiction. Bedtime stories, campfire stories…

          And not exactly a technical problem, but what about a doctor who knowingly oversimplifies or otherwise intentionally twists his words in an attempt to get the patient to manage their condition optimally? Parents who lie about how something works to help their kids understand something or behave safely? Teachers who oversimplify physics lessons to present it in a way their students can grasp for now. Not exactly a technical problem maybe, but would we want “noble lies” to affect the counter? This is a little off track, just occurred to me and felt like writing it out 🤷‍♂️

          This one doesn’t pose a direct problem really but maybe helps me get to my point: what if people who rode a train moving at relativistic speeds when lightning struck both ends talk with someone who was watching from outside about when the lightning struck? Truth is tricky…

          But making it, “how often did they attempt to intentionally deceive” as you suggested is a great approach imho. Maybe almost realistic. There’s probably some biological indicators of that right? … for non-psychopaths

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      17 days ago

      It’s a great thought and all, but wouldn’t authors, actors, and other purveyors of fiction have really large numbers? Every politician would suddenly find a new found joy of reading fiction to children in hospitals.

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    16 days ago

    I was going to hold back on this one, but then i read the comments section:

    Willingness to give head on a scale of 1-100. the Stat could have different color codes though, so I could “at a glance” some further info. (like bright red means they probably have an STI, regardless of the number, or lavender over a woman means she prefers “tacos” if you catch my meaning, dark green could mean they are down with little convincing, you know, “that sort of thing.”)

    I’m expecting to confirm my suspicions that the numbers are not as high as the spicy sites would have you believe.