If this is a place to throw hot takes: Battlefield Earth is better than Mad Max 1979, if only just marginally.
I don’t know how anyone can extrapolate from these aggregate reviews. Taste in art is so personal. I find these utterly useless. Personalized movielens ratings are a little helpful at least.
Odessey is a piece of shit movie. They even confess it’s made from “a female perspective”. It’s full of race swaps and gender swaps, pushing the same gay/trans agenda that we have seen for years from Hollywood now.
Also it’s incredibly lacking any colors appearently. It looks like brown mud, through the entire movie.
Nolan got told to make a diversity movie and it’s his worst movie because of it.
So I will admit I have absolutely no knowledge of this film. But why is a female perspective bad?
This is a masculine story about a masculine hero if you haven’t noticed. That’s why feminist perspective makes the movie awful.
Not sure how that would make it bad, just different.
Middle Earth from a female perspective could absolutely be a good film - though I wouldn’t trust anyone to actually do it well. It would also be a very different story.
I can easily see how it makes it bad, and not just different. But we are all different.
You need masculine movies to feel masculine yourself? That’s pretty sad
You need gay/trans/feminist movies to feel good about yourself? That’s pretty sad.
Sounds like the conclusion is that we can’t have any films
Now now — bang it out like Greek alpha males (no eye contact) you two.
It is fine to have masculine movies and enjoy them. A feminine movie existing doesn’t stop that. Both should be able to exist.
The question was for people who actually saw the movie. Not looked at the cast and decided their opinion based on their fucked up culture war politics before it even premiered.
Not going to watch it even for free.
Keep up the good fight comrade. Soon you’ll be victorious
I’m a westerner, man.
Its just objectively a shit movie. If you want something a lot better, watch Gladiator.
As if it wasn’t completely obvious who you are and where you get your ideas lol
Edit: but you’re right I should have said solider, not comrades. I didn’t mean to imply you were Russian or being unauthentic. I do however think you’re at war with culture and totally unoriginal.
I’m afraid so. :) At least the kind of “culture” you like.
It’s fucking art dude. Why are you so terrified?
Sinon was supposed to be a low key super soldier because Odysseus feels bad about a child getting picked and sent to war. On the long journey to Troy over the next like ten years Sinon receives extensive personal training by Odysseus.
Then when it’s Sinon’s time to shine they’re a short, small, trans person that doesn’t act or appear narratively correct for a low key Greek super soldier at all.
Elliot Page is an accomplished actor. Looking forward to seeing his portrayal. Sorry they didn’t cast a modern ubermensch for you, bub. I’m sure it was deliberate cultural Marxism or something. We’re doomed?
I haven’t seen it yet but I already hate your comment. What in the right-wing fuck is this and why is it getting upvoted? Go back to Facebook
I dont like your comment either. Right wing? I couldn’t care less about politics. Go back to Instagram.
Lemmy today seems like a hotbed for some of the shittiest bad faith takes out there.
Bad faith comment? Because you don’t agree with it? Please. I’m fine with your opinion about it, so maybe you can be fine with my opinion about it, since this is MY opinion about it. Get it?
I never trust the critics over normal viewers, lol. I am NEVER the second guy down
me to all of them: i had fun at the movies :D
Seeing it on Sunday!
I do have an issue with the amount of stars in the movie, especially Zendaya, but I’ll try to keep an open mind.
I don’t care about the historical accuracy or the racial makeup of the cast, all I care about is whether it’s a movie I enjoy watching.
especially Zendaya
She’s a stellar actress and a smokeshow.
I’m more annoyed that they included Matt Damon in the leading role. That guy’s been washed for years.
I don’t care about the historical accuracy or the racial makeup
I do think it’s very funny to be mad about Elliot Page for being transgender when I’d be more upset that he’s got zero tan in a movie about rugged sea faring people just north of Egypt.
Like so much Sword and Sandal that Hollywood produces, it’s way too white. Maybe make more movies that take place in the Baltics if you want to use this many Brits, Franks, and Nords.
Agree to disagree, I’ve never seen anything I’ve enjoyed her in.
She’s mid, I don’t give a shit if she’s in it or not tbh
Well, I’m a huge fan of Challengers. And she was a great Mary Jane in the Tom Holland Spidermovies.
She’s alright,
Smokeshows often have curves tho, but to each their own.
Booty is in the eye of the beholder, son. Some men like em long and lean, some like em thick and mean, and there’s a person for everyone in-between.
Dune?
I actually think Damon did a good job in this one
What movie?
Edit: Duh - it’s in the description.
Is anyone else getting a little uncomfortable having their confirmation bias put in the spotlight like this?
Nah, I know I’m fickle
It’s a three hour movie. If you need a heuristic to justify why you saw it (or skipped it) do what is necessary.
This is gonna have to be a home viewing because there will NEED to be at least one pee break and stretch exercise in the middle.
They should bring back the intermission before people start bringing pee bottles.
My partner and I walked out of The Odyssey after ten minutes and got a refund.
WAY too loud. Excruciatingly, painfully, unnecessarily loud. And yet I still had trouble hearing some of the dialogue. We were in an AMC Dolby theater, and I don’t think I’ll ever go to a Dolby branded theater like that again.
I’m not sure how to split the blame here between AMC, Dolby, or Christopher Nolan, but I’m mad at all three for the ringing in my ear that’s still there several hours after we walked out.
Can’t comment on the movie itself as we barely saw any of it. Might see it at a different theater but I’ll be bringing earplugs just in case, though I may want a refund there too if it’s still so loud as to require earplugs.
Nolan really not helping his reputation at being an outright sadist when it comes to sound.
Hey, I go to a lot of AMC theaters, I feel very strongly that it was the “Dolby” theater. I’ve had similar experiences there (but haven’t walked out). It might be a perfect storm of scenarios making it uniquely worse, but I can definitely say everyone in our group has all had the same experience at Dolby theaters.
For me it’s more, “I wonder why critics / audience disagree with me?” It’s an interesting thing to think about.
I try not to expose myself to any social media surrounding a movie before I watch it. No reviews, no trailers, nothing. Then I compare my experience with others, and it’s usually wildly different. It makes me wonder how much of a review is “inertia” from the environment surrounding the movie, rather than the movie itself?
As an example, I absolutely loved the film Chappie. I thought it was a great film, but the general population AND critics absolutely blasted it. I actually agreed with some of their points in the reviews, but overall I still like that movie a lot, and I still rate it 9/10.
If I’d seen the 30% rating beforehand, would I have even bothered watching the movie? Maybe not…
Chappie was great!
I know right! One of my favourite movies, actually. I remember it fondly.
Disney movies like zootopia 2 are 100% but v for fucking vendetta is like 70? Wtf RT
Read the “professional reviews” and are like “my daughter liked it so 10/10”
I love me some V for Vendetta, but Zootopia is also really good at what it is. It’s meant to entertain children while also having some laughs for the parents, and Disney is really good at that shit.
That sounds about right, you need to think about who is going to see those movies. Zootopia will be parents and children, who are a lot easier to impress than the kind of snob that would watch V for Vendetta.
V for vendetta is for snobs?
Definitely people who think of themselves as having more refined tastes.
Also, it’s not actually that good.
RT lost its credibility a long time ago and IMDB just results in the bell curve effect where most things end up at 3.5/5 which is too accurate/condensed for most people.
You need to follow a couple or even just one film critic who makes quality reviews on their own if you want good information.
My man, If you need your tastes to be affirmed by some magical numbers, then I don’t know what to tell you.
The magic numbers are helpful to give you insight you missed something. I hated The Thin Red Line initially (I expected an action movie) but gave it a 2nd shot when I saw the high reviews. Enjoyed it more the 2nd watch.
It’s not about affirmation, it’s about feeling connected to some parts or the human race. Mostly people who are simular to ourselves. When you meet your friends, you probably discuss things you all like. Its universal.
We feel what we feel and we look for others to feel the same. Not affirm it, but to not feel alone in our feelings.
As much as I understand what you say, this is not one of those things for me. I just don’t care what other people like or don’t like. I am going to form my own opinion based on my own experience and information. I also don’t look at these ratings at all.
Fair enough. Have you found that the rating is wildly inaccurate when you view a rated movie?
I dont like almost any movie now these days but that’s because I think they are so silly, and that’s because I’m 50 years old. Movies are made for teenagers, so I’m not the right group.
It’s both. The old motherly advice “if your friends jumped off a bridge would you too?” still applies. Everything is intertwined.
Well yeah, I dont do anything my friends say. We often have different opinions about things too. But its how you deal with that. Some people fight over different opinions (common on Lemmy). Others have their own opinion without needing others to agree, and still remain friends anyway.
True enough.
Upvoting this
You must be great at parties :p
Sometimes it’s just fun to have someone that agrees with your opinion.
I watched it, did not care for it. To dark, there were so many points i could not see what was happening, WAY to loud, actually hurt my ears, and, i just did not enjoy it as an experience. Actors are all fine, but there were times where the writing felt clunky or out of place ngl.
My partner and I actually walked out after 10 or 15 minutes because it was so painfully loud. Asked for (and received) a refund.
Infuriating that I can’t trust movie theaters to maintain reasonable volumes. I shouldn’t have to bring earplugs to a movie.
See also: everyone driving slower than me is an idiot, everyone driving faster than me is an asshole.
But people don’t know anything and you should form an opinion of your own. Even if it’s a garbage opinion everyone else hates.
Even if it’s a garbage opinion everyone else hates.
Bad advice for racists and misogynists
We’re talking about movies.
If someone watches LOTR and goes “what a stupid movie, they retconned the wizard dying — he didn’t even cast fireball — and why didn’t they just ride the eagles like badasses” nothing I say will make them like it, but it is a garbage opinion they formed themselves (hypothetically… I made this up)
Sometimes racism is just a collection of unfortunate priors.
More often, it’s just cultural alienation supercharged with an advertising budget.
In the end, having your own view - even if it’s unpopular or outright wrong - is better than letting your understanding be shaped by someone else’s marketing budget.
