I mean, they did invade Tibet with ground forces and eventually bomb the shit out of them, kidnapped tons of children and killed their parents. Between 10k in the first three days (the tiny tiny tibet army was very overwhelmed) and their government estimates 1.2million tibetens were killed then and during the 220k Chinese soldier occupation, but the actual number is likely more around 87k to 150k, with the remaining number being imprisoned in slave labor camps and the children kidnapped to grow up as “real Chinese” children. Like the indeginous schools in the US and Canada. Things got so bad that according to the PRC’s own reports, over 70% of rural PRC members defected and fought for the rebels. Skeletons clogged the Yellow River one year apparently. But as typical with all imperialism whether western or eastern, the winners try to explain the deaths away as famine when the soldiers steal all of the crops and shoot out the legs of the people, but they “technically” die of starvation or disease.
Then they came and cut all of their old growth lumber (maybe the real end goal?) with massive deforestation and resource harvesting.
But it is no question that China’s current imperialism is economic for 90% of it. It is also by far the lesser of the evils and much much less violent and physically harmful nowadays after 1970 or so.
Like I know the world is really shitty, but 50 years ago isn’t that long ago. Especially when we’re taking about forgetting a river of skeletons caused by a war of territorial expansion.
Like I know the world is really shitty, but 50 years ago isn’t that long ago.
Y’all got some very long, very selective grudges. I feel pretty confident in saying that if the US had been at peace since Vietnam, I’d hate it a hell of lot less.
No, they aren’t. One is freeing serfs in a region that’s been part of your country for 200 years and then living peacefully with the world afterwards for the next 70 years and counting. The other is waging campaigns of violence and death, covert and overt, across every continent in the world, overthrowing democratically elected leaders in favor of autocrats who will sell out their country’s resources.
Murder? Of slave owners? Yeah, that is often required for freedom. Do slavers really count as human enough for it to count as murder? Self-defense at worst.
and genocide
What “genocide” would that be?
Anyway take that boot and shove it up your ass until something pops
Right back at you, I’m not the one defending a slaver theocracy.
Refer to the meme again. I swear it’s like arguing with a toddler. I’ll keep it simple not defending China’s genocide is not supporting the US. I refuse to engage with your rampant denial of facts and support of authoritarianism.
I’ll keep it simple not defending China’s genocide is not supporting the US.
The US is not what I’m referring to with “slaver theorcracy.” I know all y’all are ignorant of history, but can you really be that ignorant?
I refuse to engage with your rampant denial of facts and support of authoritarianism.
No human being deserves to live under a boot
Well, unless that boot belongs to a lama, apparently. Then they’re allowed to force you to work in chains until you die at 30 and anyone who tries to do anything about it, you’ll denounce as an “imperialist” and accuse of “murder” and “genocide.” Then you suddenly become perfectly fine with authoritarianism and think people should live under that lama’s boot forever.
I don’t care which boot smells better
Complete lie, you love it when the boot smells like this:
I mean, they did invade Tibet with ground forces and eventually bomb the shit out of them, kidnapped tons of children and killed their parents. Between 10k in the first three days (the tiny tiny tibet army was very overwhelmed) and their government estimates 1.2million tibetens were killed then and during the 220k Chinese soldier occupation, but the actual number is likely more around 87k to 150k, with the remaining number being imprisoned in slave labor camps and the children kidnapped to grow up as “real Chinese” children. Like the indeginous schools in the US and Canada. Things got so bad that according to the PRC’s own reports, over 70% of rural PRC members defected and fought for the rebels. Skeletons clogged the Yellow River one year apparently. But as typical with all imperialism whether western or eastern, the winners try to explain the deaths away as famine when the soldiers steal all of the crops and shoot out the legs of the people, but they “technically” die of starvation or disease.
Then they came and cut all of their old growth lumber (maybe the real end goal?) with massive deforestation and resource harvesting.
But it is no question that China’s current imperialism is economic for 90% of it. It is also by far the lesser of the evils and much much less violent and physically harmful nowadays after 1970 or so.
You had me in the first half
Like I know the world is really shitty, but 50 years ago isn’t that long ago. Especially when we’re taking about forgetting a river of skeletons caused by a war of territorial expansion.
Y’all got some very long, very selective grudges. I feel pretty confident in saying that if the US had been at peace since Vietnam, I’d hate it a hell of lot less.
Yo you did the thing.
You’re here proving the meme. Both are imperialism both are evil.
No, they aren’t. One is freeing serfs in a region that’s been part of your country for 200 years and then living peacefully with the world afterwards for the next 70 years and counting. The other is waging campaigns of violence and death, covert and overt, across every continent in the world, overthrowing democratically elected leaders in favor of autocrats who will sell out their country’s resources.
There is absolutely no equivalence whatsoever.
Is murder and genocide what we call freedom these days?
Anyway take that boot and shove it up your ass until something pops
Murder? Of slave owners? Yeah, that is often required for freedom. Do slavers really count as human enough for it to count as murder? Self-defense at worst.
What “genocide” would that be?
Right back at you, I’m not the one defending a slaver theocracy.
Refer to the meme again. I swear it’s like arguing with a toddler. I’ll keep it simple not defending China’s genocide is not supporting the US. I refuse to engage with your rampant denial of facts and support of authoritarianism.
No human being deserves to live under a boot
The US is not what I’m referring to with “slaver theorcracy.” I know all y’all are ignorant of history, but can you really be that ignorant?
Well, unless that boot belongs to a lama, apparently. Then they’re allowed to force you to work in chains until you die at 30 and anyone who tries to do anything about it, you’ll denounce as an “imperialist” and accuse of “murder” and “genocide.” Then you suddenly become perfectly fine with authoritarianism and think people should live under that lama’s boot forever.
Complete lie, you love it when the boot smells like this:
Imagine how they are feeling arguing with you, making up crazy imaginary scenarios in your head and refusing to explain them.
Which western genocide are you confusing with the liberation of Tibet during its civil war?