Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective Agency
ended too soon :(
Eh it’s over twice the length of the original BBC one. I wouldn’t have minded seeing more. But it ended at a good spot at least. Honestly surprised it lasted that long with Elijah in it post LOTR.
It was only cancelled because the showrunner got metoo’d
I think the joke was more that she doesn’t know what fruit shampoo is. She was excited to shower, she knows that bathing is even if she doesn’t do it often.
Does that mean she’s removing body hair? No, I get why it seems inconsistent. I do think humans have a very diverse expression of body hair and some people have barely any visible body hair even if they don’t remove it.
If I want to appear hairless I need to shave daily (or more, dark hair on pale skin RIP) whereas I have friends who appear hairless on their legs and armpits unless you get really close. No, it’s not from waxing or laser, it’s just the texture and colour of their body hair.
I’m not trying to suggest this is definitely what is going on here and it would be nice to see a wider expression of appearances in media. Maybe then we’d get over the narrow view of “acceptable” body hair.
My ex of never had to shave anything because she had alopecia. Looked completely normal from the neck up but from the neck down the only place she grew hair was in the crotch, and even that was thin and faint.
Her legs and pits were naturally hairless.
That was holistic shaving
100% guarantee that if she did have armpit hair some other sad bastard would be making a post commenting on it
Honestly, this is still an argument in favor of it, in my opinion. Those people only have their opinions because they were normalized at one point in time. If they’re angry with you then you did something right, and hopefully in the next generation that opinion will be even less normalized.
Ah yes, the famous problem of making everyone happy.
I’m not sure that’s a good enough reason to avoid showing women with body hair in media.
I’m not saying it is. Just that you can’t please anybody it seems
Eh, diversity in media is more important than sexist assholes who think they have a say in how women are supposed to look.
Yes. I agree. I’m not sure why you’re arguing with me about it
That user has a distinctly combative tone in general.
That’s rich coming from you ;)
I’m not arguing, I was expanding on your comment.
Where was I arguing with you?
Just felt like you were
This is a site designed to support and encourage discussion and conversation between users.
I’m not arguing with you by engaging you in conversation based on the content of your comment.
Hey some people are into that!
I loved this series. Was amazing.
What is it?
Dirk Gently
First season was over the top great.
Second season dropped off a bit but still a good watch.
Saddest ending with them setting up s3
There’s this story that Mark Hammil tells about being on the set of Star Wars and he mentions to Harrison Ford that their hair should be wet, since it was just wet in the previous scene.
And Ford says something like, “This ain’t that kind of movie, kid. If the audience is talking about our hair, something has already gone wrong.”
Ford’s attitude about the films has always just pissed me off. If you don’t like something, which you clearly don’t, why you do it in the first place?
Hell, I’d argue his career wouldn’t be what it became without star wars and he should at least be able to acknowledge that.
He always just comes off as “I’m better than you, I’m better than this franchise, I’m better than anything”
Christopher Eccleston famously hated Dr who, and he never seems to say a negative thing about it. Plenty of MCU actors hate the MCU, they don’t talk shit, and I can’t see them talking shit about them for several decades either.
Christopher Eccleston famously hated Dr who
its my understanding that he hated Russell T Davis because Davis was abusive to the staff.
Ford struggled with anxiety and imposter syndrome early on, and developed his tough, flippant exterior around that as a coping mechanism. So there are a lot of stories about him saying callous, tough guy things. But he’s quite a softie who really loves the art of acting, so I don’t think he’s really dismissing everything and everyone outright.
I think Ford’s attitude is similar to Guinness’ attitude - it’s not that he hates Star Wars, it’s that he hates that it’s completely overshadowed his other work and nobody ever talks to him about any other part of his career.
You mean like Indiana Jones?
Ford’s attitude about the films has always just pissed me off. If you don’t like something, which you clearly don’t, why you do it in the first place?
I mean I don’t love my job but I keep showing up for the paycheck.
I hate my job and I don’t even have a job.
And you probably do a good job, just like Ford (although I’ve never seen a single star wars movie and it’s going to stay that way).
why you do it in the first place?
it paid more than carpentry. No, really.
dumptrucks of money.
Which is why sigourney weaver kept making aliens movies
Yep. I find it interesting, too, that the first appearance of ford is in some western tv show from 1967… it took a full decade for him to become a real star. meanwhile he worked on FFC’s cabinets lol
And fucking ACED every one of them.
That’s the sign of a consummate professional. You show up and you do it anyway, and you nail it.
Famously, Agatha Christie hated Hercule Poirot, yet she still wrote him into some of the best detective stories in the world.
Ah but carpentry is rewarded in the kingdom of heaven.
yeah, if you’re really lucky people will notice you and you’ll nail your big debut
MCU is genuinely mass market slop though. I cannot believe people watch that drivel, and I judge people who do. That’s all I have to say on the matter, good day, Sir, I SAID GOOD DAY.
I actually really like that line. I remember watching the latest Star Wars trilogy and just nitpicking. I’m not a super fan, I don’t even own anything Star Wars. But, the movies kept pulling out stupid takes that my suspension of disbelief was gone and I kept focusing on hyper details.
I also like that Harrison Ford calls everyone kid.
Rise of Skywalker gave everyone what they wanted.
If you watched it wanting a fun action adventure movie, it gave you what to wanted.
If you wanted a movie you could nitpick and complain about on the internet, it gave you what you wanted.
Mark Hammil does an excellent Harrison Ford impression, so there’s a possibility that the “kid” is part of the impression, rather than a direct quote. Also, I was doing the quote from memory, so it’s also possible that I remembered it wrong.
But I also like the thought that Harrison Ford calls everyone kid.
He is the one to pull it off every single time with perfect naturalness.
Please remember that Star Wars was released in 1977. It absolutely blew people’s minds because they were doing something that nobody had ever seen before, to an audience that was just perfectly ripe for receiving it. It would have been impossible for them to cover every single base, when they were doing such ground breaking things, you kind of have to see it in the light of that, like you would watch Metropolis by Fritz Lang, or Nosferatu.
You can’t nitpick it the same way you can Marvel slop in 2026, there was so many ground breaking things, most of all it was a genuinely alien experience because we hadn’t really seen such a well designed intergalactic society and world building before, that all the minor stuff is just afterthoughts to what the greater story was.
It’s like finding flaws in a renaissance painting, or the Iliad, or classical opera- which is a fitting comparison considering SW is the definition of space opera, down to containing one of the most genuinely masterful, memorable, and well crafted scores of all time.
Actually, you can always nitpick some more.
Maybe she uses a sharpened clamshell. That’s what I heard the Native Americans used to shave. It always sounded ridiculous to me. A sharpened clam shell?
A clam shell is more effective than an anvil.
Meanwhile they had to spend a huge emount of time airbrushing Ripley in Alien because she told them to fuck off with that shit.
This isn’t true and didn’t happen.
maybe she was shot with lasers that killed the roots…
It’d be hotter if she didn’t.
They nipped out the non-head hair genes during the cloning, duhhhhhhhhhhh
Maybe they forced her to get laser hair removal when they were messing with her. Super underrated show! I love Dirk Gently, whatever character has screen time at a given moment is my favorite character.
Wasn’t this scene pre-messing-with, or had she previously been at the CIA facility before the show started?
She was imprisoned as a child/teen.
Sorry, which show is this? Dirk Gently’s Holistic etc? Or the miniseries Dirk Gently (2012)?
I should re-watch it I guess, it’s been a while. (The lady still looks familiar though)
IDK it says BBC America, so I guess the explanation is quite simple.
It’s because Americans are crazy. An having perfectly natural hair under her armpits would be unacceptably disgusting for an American audience.
While torture, killing and poor hygiene is not.Yes… Americans are to blame for the BBC show…
No Americans are to blame for what was reported about Americans. Because the report is true.
If it was false, BBC would be to blame.
Do you claim the story is false?Wtf are you talking about
Or this actress didn’t want to grow out pit hair for a comedy show. Not everything is that deep
Make-up departments exist. It being a deliberate choice by the production makes much more sense.
It’s very possible it just never came up. Especially if it’s a male-run production. The male gaze just assumes a woman doesn’t have pit hair, and if she doesn’t think of it and bring it up, nobody does.
She probably takes her hairless pits for granted through long habit as we ll.
The rest of the job is basically rub “mud” product through her hair and all over her body. More attention paid to the face for closeups. (She’s got lipstick and contouring and probably mascara as well, a “no makeup” makeup.) Should some makeup artist have thought of it and glued some hair trimmings to her pits? Yes. But while it would be easy in this scene/pose, it would be uncomfortable and easily shed during scenes where she needs to use her arms, and then you run into continuity problems. (I don’t know the show but I assume she doesn’t spend the whole time crucified like that)
Which goes back to the above: “Americans are crazy. having perfectly natural hair under her armpits would be unacceptably disgusting for an American”
I know American women with armpit hair, I don’t retch when I see them
As an American woman with armpit hair, I get a lot of unsolicited comments.
It would be nice if there were more representation of adult women’s bodies in media.
What the fuck is wrong with people?
In this case? Misogyny.
People take issue when women don’t contort themselves into a socially accepted image.
I’m sorry, you shouldn’t have to put up with that
Wouldn’t want to accurately portray women’s natural bodies lest they think it might be acceptable to be unshaven.
Or maybe she, the actress, prefers it, and she, the actress, didn’t want to change something superficial for the show.
Personally I don’t like body hair. It’s coarse and irritating.
I still believe there should be more representation in media of women with body hair.
We should normalize picking what’s best for each person individually and not trying to portray a certain way that women are “supposed” to look.
Funnily enough, I personally prefer body hair because it’s softer than stubble. But that’s my personal preference and not one I tell others that they should do just to please me. (not saying you are doing this, just putting thoughts to words).
Fiona Dourif did a fantastic job portraying Bart in this show. If being clean shaven is how they wanted to appear on screen, I think their right to do so supersedes any obligation they have to ‘normalize’ anything for anyone else. It certainly did not harm the performance.
I’m not criticizing their performance or their individual choices.
I’m criticizing how the media wants to portray women as completely hairless all of the time.
Natural body is a polite way of framing ungroomed. Men nor women like seeing poor hygiene. Some types of poor hygiene are seen as worse than others. Dirty hair? Sorta gross. Body hair? Disgusting.
For real? Did i understand you correct that for you it’s worse having clean hair in armpits or on legs than unwashed hair on the head?
Do you also remove ALL of your own body hair?
It is possible to not ever cut any of your hair and still be hygienic and clean!
I wish I could permanently delete all my body hair. Laser doesn’t work for me unfortunately
Are men with trimmed beards gross and unhygienic?
Isn’t that for you to decide?
It’s so annoying when people edit their comments after they get replies.
I didn’t make the assertion that body hair is unhygienic.
Natural body is a polite way of framing ungroomed.
Natural landscape is such an hippie way of framing unpaved!
Body hair? Disgusting.
Oh, men are supposed to shave their body hair or they’re disgusting?
If you want men to like your body, yes. Personally, I don’t want that.
If you want men to like your body, yes
Can I assume you also believe that women only want hairy men then? Because I’m pretty certain you’re going to get pushback on that too.
It’s a great way to filter out men who don’t deserve access to my body.
My sex life never diminished when I stopped shaving.
You sound like my dad asking why I’d date someone with tattoos because according to him tattoos are ugly.
Your personal preferences don’t dictate what others like.
My husband loves my hairy body. 🤷♂️ Finding hair disgusting and unsanitary isn’t a natural state for men, it’s something you’ve been taught. Clean hair isn’t unhygienic.
I mean, I’m morally consistent on this one in that I think everyone looks better smooth. Yall can be hairy if you want though.
Thanks for recognizing the difference between personal preference and personal choice <3
pleeeease
There’s probably a merkin for pits, or there could be. That would have been funny.
I just learned there’s a fly, for fly fishing, called the strong arm merkin. Yes, they’re furry:
Anyway “Pit Merkin” is a great metal band name, you’re fuckin’ welcome
Do you make obnoxious broad generalizations about every massively diverse country on earth, or just the USA?
I don’t know of any other country where it’s considered a scandal if a famous woman has hair under her arms.
American audience doesn’t mean everybody in that audience, Americans doesn’t mean everybody either, just enough to make it an issue.
And in both cases it’s more than enough to make it an issue. Because it’s not just a couple of weirdos, it the mainstream media too.
So the broad generalization was made by you in your head, maybe because you felt included, why did you feel included?
Do you think hair under the arms is disgusting?
Wild to call out a character that suffers from neck-down alopecia. Waow.
Forcing actors to grow body hair in their more intimate areas should not be a virtue. That’s weird and over the line and you should be ashamed.
It’s a movie. It’s not a realistic story and shown through a camera, not someone’s real eyes. Suspend your disbelief or leave.
This, and I hope that it wasn’t a body hair fetish that triggered this post.
God forbid women want to be more accurately represented in media. Noooo, it has to be a fetish.
I wonder what makes people dislike body hair
Reading that far into anything sanitation posts is illadvised at best. They post like its their job.
Unless I’m missing a comment from the poster, I don’t think there’s an argument being made to force this actor to grow body hair just for this role.
Just that it’s odd that they’d go through the effort in makeup to make them appear dirty and unkempt, but don’t bother to include body hair. It’s a common practice in makeup to add beards to men to give them a more unkempt appearance, but not armpit or leg hair on women even though most adult women grow hair in these areas.
Right … no need to grow it. You can just attach some fake hair.
Exactly, but even so, it’s an actors job, many lose weight, gain muscle, grow hair, lose hair, all the time for the role. Such a strange thing to be angry about, let the actors decide themselves lmao. What’s with the new trend of people getting offended on behalf of others?
It’s ok if they do it. It’s not ok to be mad if they don’t go far enough. Are you going to cripple the house actor for realisms sake?
Creating these demands and expectations is not ok.
Reading comprehension here is worse than tumblr, istg.
Thanks. Thought they said the actor should just do all the afformentioned things.
You are forgetting that acting is a job. One the actors have the freedom to decide and negotiate their terms.
It’s perfectly reasonable for a character to have armpit hair, even if that personally offends you.
The actor can decide what to do with the director or whomever. You dont need to project your own opinions onto some random actor, they have their own.
Also, it is absolutely fucking okay to expect consistency in a film/show.
I don’t expect them to have shaven armpits. I do not care either way. It’s a weird thing to notice anyway.
The post pointed out an inconsistency, anyone would expect an unkempt person to not shave their armpits. Perhaps the director missed this (as they often do, there’s a lot of inconsistencies in films and more so in shows) in this case, or just didnt care.
But if a role required armpit hair (or literally anything else), then it would be expected the auditioning actors would be willing to grow it or wear fake etc. If they wont or cannot, then it’s totally reasonable for someone else to be cast instead.
An expectation that an actor tries their best to fill their role is absolutely okay. Just because you have a personal issue with armpit hair, doesnt mean it should not be a factor in aesthetics of a character.
If Christian Bale wants to make himself look like Skeletor for a role, that’s his choice.
Yup, totally with you.
