• Barbecue Cowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 months ago

    Season 23 episode 22: Rating 3.9: Lisa Goes Gaga: Lisa helps Lady Gaga and learns the importance of being yourself.

    Season 30 episode 18: Rating 4.6: Bart vs. Itchy and Scratchy: Krusty releases an all-female reboot of Itchy and Scratchy

    We can guess at why those two got the lowest ratings of the entire series.

    • FinjaminPoach@lemmy.worldOP
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      4 months ago

      Thank you for the info, i assumed it would be “treehouse of horror” episodes. My mum didn’t let me watch them and said they were horrifying 🤧😭

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        4 months ago

        I remember how horrifying the first Treehouse of Horror was with checks notes an Edgar Allen Poe rendition of The Raven.

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        4 months ago

        They’re not as good as the old ones by a lot, admittedly they’re frequently pretty bad but I still kind of feel like the treehouse of horror episodes tend to have at least one passable story and are usually the highlight of the season.

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      4 months ago

      I could guess, but why don’t you just go ahead and say it? I’m not sure what you’re implying, it could be anything.

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        4 months ago

        I’d say the Gaga was for pandering to fans of a celebrity to get them to watch. Making a Gaga centric episode at the height of Gaga’s popularity is pandering. As compared to having a few lines by George Harrison or Paul McCartney which were at their height of popularity 20 years earlier. When contemporary celebrities were used like Smashing Pumpkins is was as a cameo, not the focus of the entire episode.

        The all woman Itchy Scratchy episode would be panned because it’s punching down on the feminist movie remakes.

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          it’s punching down on the feminist movie remakes.

          Is that feminist? Giving women a recycled story with a history and a ton of baggage instead of a universe thats really theirs? You’re setting them up to never be their own thing, always compared to the original.

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            4 months ago

            See, ladies? We made movies for you but no one liked them…obviously because of misogyny, not because they were obvious and soulless cash grabs.

            It’s corporate feminism.

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              That’s the other thing. Take a beloved franchise, with expectations through the roof. Hire the laziest writers you can find, making sure none of them understand what people connected with in the source material. Market it as “look, the movie you loved, but with vaginas now!”

              I’m convinced ghostbusters 2016 was created solely to give ammo to chuds.

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                You don’t hire the writers because they’re lazy, you hire them because they’re cheap and you want to minimise production costs because there are women in the film so you’re not expecting to sell any tickets except to people who’ve fallen for the social media marketing campaign you ran that said anyone who doesn’t watch the film is a misogynist. It’s just classic race-to-the-bottom profit seeking.

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                4 months ago

                I’m too familiar with internet anonymity to truly believe this but I wouldn’t be surprised if the ghostbusters backlash was started by the studio.

                There’s no way they didn’t know it was bad…but they already paid for it and would get shit for canning it. So they made it seem like the release was sabotaged by the patriarchy.

                Corporations are ALL about dividing and conquering.

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    4 months ago

    I am slightly worried by anti-vaxxers being Simpsons fans. Do they understand what they are watching?

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      4 months ago

      Eh, idk how it is with series, but <7 for films means not worth the time (excepting special circumstances), and 7 to 8 is okay to good.

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      Yeah they should have had black as 5.x, grey as 6.x, white as 7.x, green as 8.x, and gold as 9.x

      Or just use the Blizzard/rpg rarity colors for user defined groupings so that people can make their own thresholds for how to opine for whatever ratings.

      For example, I typically think of each number as three categories: low-7s, mid 7s, and high 7s. A low 7 is watchable and decent, a mid 7 may be pretty good but not have a ton of truly moving content or messaging, and high 7s are like the last rating of ultimate popcorn - fantastic, but relatively intellectually empty. And as soon as you hit 8.0, to get there, it has to start having some levels of boundary-pushing of my expectations AND be very good.

      So I would relate all of the 7s as like a Diablo green item rarity, maybe with high 7s being blues. High 8s maybe starts to get into yellows, and 9s are legendaries with mid and high 9s being reds or like Diablo ancients. Very low 7s and high 6s would definitely be whites, with mid and low 6s being greys. And anything under there… Probably also greys? Maybe have a gradient where the lower the rating, the more transparent it gets. 1.0 or 0.0 (whatever the lowest is) would have to still be visible, though.

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        Automatically coloring cells is one of the things Excel excels at. Green for the upper bound (either a static number or ~90th percentile), yellow for 50th percentile, red for lower bound (static number or 10th percentile etc.). Automatically gradients everything in between. Want it more green? Lower the upper bound. Want it more red? Raise the lower bound.

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        4 months ago

        And now I know SCmSTR’s very arbitrary scale compared to Diablo rarerity scale colors. What a time to be alive.

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    4 months ago

    Years ago I marathoned seasons 1 through 13 while enduring benzo withdrawals. I can absolutely confirm that these ratings are accurate.

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    4 months ago

    The Simpson stopped making stories about the family and started making episodes where every week was a new celebrity coming to Springfield. Then they did some odd reboot thing where now they’re just retelling stories with a modern look? It’s so weird. The show should have ended with the movie IMO

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      4 months ago

      Your comment seems to have been instinctively downvoted but a lot of other people are saying the same thing, so i feel like there’s truth to it. Personally I don’t really watch the simpsons but i tried to binge the first season when i saw it was on disney+

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    5 months ago

    I can’t watch modern Simpsons. I’m sure there are really good episodes out there, but I just can’t listen to Marge’s voice anymore.

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      4 months ago

      Did she get a new voice actor in the original at some point?

      Because for us who watch the German dub, this happened in or around 2007, between “We’re on the Road to D’ohwhere” and “My Fair Laddy”. That was the time I seriously became aware of which episodes were (then) new, because Marge’s voice was different only in the new ones. :D

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        4 months ago

        Nah, the actress just sounds like she’s about to die every time she speaks because she’s been doing that voice for 40 years and she’s in her 70s now.

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        4 months ago

        No new US voice actor, the show has just been on for 37+ years so the actresses voice has changed.

        It is noticeable in the more recent seasons, although I think in the last few episodes either she’s figured out a way to make her voice sound better or they’ve figured out how to tweak it.

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    4 months ago

    I’m so old I was an adult when I saw the very first shorts on Tracy Ullman.

    I was shocked when they hit 20 years. Now, I’m just baffled. Why are people still watching? I can only guess, habit?

    The last thing I watched was part of the first movie. Since I had, coincidently, just read Under the Dome (which King claims was not born from the movie), I didn’t even finish the movie.

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    4 months ago

    This is consistent with my idea (which I’ve long had) that there was yet another quality drop around the time they switched to HD. The episodes from the 2000s are mostly still perfectly watchable IMHO, the ones from the 2010s much less so and I don’t think I’ve ever watched a Simpsons episode from the 2020s, so can’t say anything about that.

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      4 months ago

      Last year a started watching from the beginning and watched until I found that I pretty consistently did not enjoy the episodes. I agree with your assessment. The last episode that I watched was from '13 or '14.

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      4 months ago

      Responsible, sensible, reasonable, commonsensical, yes. Cool, not really…

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    4 months ago

    Everyone:
    Anti-vaxxers: “You are just getting vaccines to be trendy, not to protect your family and others!”