Should be the parents’ responsibility to protect their kids, not the tech companies. Also, age verification has nothing to do with “protecting the children” lol.
no shit
Linux says fuck your age verification.
We straight up don’t have better solutions to fight LLMs, botnets and weaponized misinformation on an open anonymous internet.
As a society, our laws, rules, and regulations, have all been worn down to the point were at now. We could have had nice things. If everyone got a decent education, we may have been able to weather the AI storm, but we that just didn’t happen. Everyone in modern society is neck deep in technology. From entertainment to social interactions to news to audio blips to doomscroll - it is prime for propaganda and misinformation, and has been for some time now. There has to be an answer for that. Short-term and long-term with how fast technology has been moving in the past 200 years.
What are the alternatives?
I don’t know - maybe it doesn’t matter if we Hadron Collider ourselves into a blackhole.
Bullshit. Rather than a trust by default model, we switch to a distrust by default model. Done. But that’s not something compatible with ads so we are fucked.
What is bullshit?
You don’t believe there are LLMs posing as citizens online? Or, you don’t believe that governments are trying to use that to push narratives, propaganda to destabilize citizens trust? Or, you don’t believe anyone would be gullible enough to fall for LLM targeted propaganda?
Rather than a trust by default model, we switch to a distrust by default model.
Correct, when anyone with a few thousand to spend can create botnets to mimic and mislead a nations citizens, that’s a problem. When Billionaires can create private datacenters to publish and promote their own propaganda anonymously, that’s a problem. The world is too connected and too illiterate to handle a free, open, anonymous internet safely IMO. It’s being taken advantage of by too many big players with little to no pushback.
Anonymous internet isn’t dead, but no country can saddle it, so for the safety of any Nation, the default needs to be gated in some way shape or form. Otherwise, every Nations citizens is at the mercy at how well any enemy Nation can utilize targeted propaganda in a heavily unregulated medium.
Maybe that asshole shouldn’t have been supporting the fascists then…?
Meta is pushing this so Zuck doesnt get sued for addicting kids. He can point his finger and say its the parents fault for kids seeing bad or addicting content. We are losing our rights and our privacy because a shithead like zuck doesnt want to get rightfully sued.
Amen. Been saying this a while. He knew this shit was coming so he’s was prepared with this Ace up his sleeve.
Step 1: get people addicted, monetize it to no end
Step 2: cover it up and lie about it being fine, spread misinformation of you have to
Step 3: plan a scapegoat tactic as a backup just in case. Maybe 2.
Step 4: buy out politicians who’ll support you when it’s time to take action; like “age verification” as a redirect (as if the gov has ever fine anything promptly!)
Step 5: Get the media to sort of drop coverage to get people to forget about it with other stuff, and watch the lawsuits and trials fade away into the background as there’s no more media coverage for it.
They want this to keep track of your children, so they can traffick them more easily. Epstein class at it again.
CEO of Honeypot declares water is wet
That’s why they’re fuckin doing it.
Never forget who is behind this https://youtu.be/Yd7j_u-wPoM
Israelis lobbying agitating for the end of American first amendment rights, what a shocker.
We need to find that guy and… have a little chat with him.There’s a bit of American history involving incredibly affordable concrete footwear that seems relevant here.
I hate short replies that don’t add much (so added more than agreed!) but I’ve always enjoyed being anonymous in forums, I’m quite a shy person.
Never was a jerk intentionally or anything just said my bit. But everyone possibly knowing who I was I’d probably say nothing ever. Fuck it I was private before I can be private later. But I’m old and recall before Internet when I had no (or little) interaction.
Like we all haven’t seen data breeches over the years…oh it’s the government that holds the master authentication? Fuck that shit is all. Nothing, from a person who does programming these days, like that is remotely better.
Some countries may be better but we’re all democratic right? Takes a single election till shit stops working as a safeguard, then new ones in make a different law. The whole system was not built for current tech.
I am old enough to remember when the internet was run by hobbyists and enthusiasts, companies were happy to pay “to be online” it wasn’t riddled with ads and profits wasn’t the default reason to create content.
Thems were heady days
You’re kidding yourself if you think companies being online was ever about anything other than potential profit. At first it was just a way to reach a wider pool of customers. Like the yellow pages before. Then, once every company had an online presence, they started looking for new ways to monetize the connectivity.
Their statement is compatible with a profit incentive. Companies were happy to pay to be online because it was good marketing.
It’s just pining for the time before they figured out how to target marketing and sell data
something something broken clock and proton. lol
i guess a broken clock can be right. lol
For once Yen and I see eye to eye.
given it’s just because it will hurt his business, but i’m still happy for some W
This is an easy fix. We just make our own internet. With the usual, blackjack and hookers.
But does it have blackjack and hookers?
What is being pushed for implementation is better described as identity verification, not age verification.
I would have little issue with a solution that purely gated services on age in a secure and privacy respecting manner. This OS level garbage is not that, its creating an oligarchy run identity gate to control access to personal computing.
OS-level is the only privacy respecting way (except maybe browser-level). The alternative is some cloud service who’s code you can’t audit.
Thank you. Now I just wish somebody at the government level would understand this and the implications of what this entails. Like maybe mention that all their weird online fetishes could be tracked back to them. It’s like this one company doing the “verification “ would be rolling in kompromat.
it’s all by design. they don’t want the general public to put it together that these are identify tracking surveillance system, just a carefree age verification to keep kids away from the baddies 🙄
It’s never about the kids
Exactly. We need to adopt something like a post quantum secure, independently audited version of the EU age checking app. Way better than OS level crap.
Agreed. The model is a good start, the security of it’s implementation woefully inadequate… And I agree this MUST use post quantum cryptography.
Dox-gating (yes I just made that up lol) operating systems will result in people not updating security patches.
I like that word. I may use it later.
