ICE deports dozens of migrants working on Disney cruise ships after child porn bust
www.independent.co.uk
Agents boarded eight ships as part of their investigation

Crew members were still wearing their Disney uniforms when they were escorted away from the boat with their hands zip-tied behind their backs, reports say

Some travelers on Disney’s Magic cruise ship were left disturbed earlier this month after ICE agents stormed onto the vessel and detained several crew members.

Immigrant rights groups said at least 10 crew members were detained at the Port of San Diego on April 23 after the Disney-run cruise ship returned following a five-day trip.

Dharmi Mehta and her family had enjoyed their trip, but were upset when they saw the head waiter, whom they had become close with, being led away from the docked boat with his hands zip-tied behind his back.

  • MrMakabar@slrpnk.netEnglish
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    2 months ago

    The Disney Magic is Bahama flagged. This is not US territory and ICE has no right to be on it what sort ever.

          • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works
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            2 months ago

            What was the point? You’re making a strawman claiming that “laws don’t matter in port” yet can’t even establish what immigration law was supposedly broken by foreign workers working on a foreign ship who hadn’t even stepped foot on US soil.

            • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
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              2 months ago

              Be real fun if we start just arresting the crew of any ship we don’t like… Or like too much and want to steal. Lol who would come to a US port?

          • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works
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            2 months ago

            Yeah, I saw and that it sure feels like a total BS after-the-fact justification considering these were immigration agents who don’t investigate those kinds of crimes, these people aren’t in US jurisdiction so how did they even show up on their radar, and they apparently boarded a second ship from Holland and claimed those crewmembers were also part of this same alleged ring. What are the odds that all these people working on different ships from all over the world all happen to be part of a single CSAM ring and they all happened to be in a single port at the exact same time? Seems like you’d be more likely to win the Powerball two times in a row.

    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      When a ship docks in a foreign country, the vessel and everyone on it enter that nation’s “internal waters”. Because of this, the crew is physically located on that country’s soil (or, more accurately, its territorial jurisdiction), meaning local laws apply to them.

      • braxy29@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        but presumably us companies can employ individuals who are not citizens at “sites” which are not based in the us?

      • Hacksaw@lemmy.ca
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        2 months ago

        LMAO, I love it when conservatives pretend to care about “the law” when they support politicians who use it as toilet paper.

        • ohulancutash@feddit.ukEnglish
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          2 months ago

          By “conservative” I assume you mean “someone who checked the laws” rather than referring to economic or social taste.

            • NerdyTimesOrWhatever@lemmy.today
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              2 months ago

              They have the ability to board US boats flying US flags in (and out) of US ports for the purpose of enforcing the law. Well, local law enforcement can, and specific government organizations. Not ICE, though. They arent a government organization that was created and fully defined by congress. Making a govt organization isnt snapping fingers and pouring money into a black hole.

              Even if they were an organization with the required credentials to execute local, national, and maritime law, they didnt have a reason to attack anyone. Zilch.

            • ohulancutash@feddit.ukEnglish
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              2 months ago

              Never said any were. I was correcting someone who thought ships weren’t under US jurisdiction.

          • NerdyTimesOrWhatever@lemmy.today
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            2 months ago

            No, they mean an idiot supporting this behavior because ICE did it. ICE did it so its legal!

            I will say ships in US ports flying US flags are subject to our laws, but nothing justifies the psychotic brutality of the brownshirts. It may have been legal behavior, but the death penalty was also legal (nationally) at one point. Its about the weight of the response. We didnt use butterknives for executions, and people shouldnt be attacked, be forced to follow contradictory commands, strung in weird positions with zip ties, kidnapped and disappeared, etc. Being brown doesnt mean you should be slammed in a concentration camp ICE holding facility.

      • Mpatch@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Not how it works. By your logic, ice can detain all personell on every vessel that docks in us? Bulk carriers, tankers, sea container? People who won’t set foot on us soil. send a boat, get your crew kidnapped. That’s going to go over well.

        • InputZero@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          Why the downvote this is obviously the truth? They get the maximum benefit of doubt while we get maximum suspicion.

    • tempest@lemmy.ca
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      2 months ago

      They actually love brown people. They want their cheap labor and this stuff keeps people afraid and makes them keep their head down. It has the added benefit that they get to parade it around to their electorate like ‘something is being done’

      It’s theater to keep poor white people in fly over states from realizing that the people in power are the ones selling them out and have been the entire time.

        • tempest@lemmy.ca
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          2 months ago

          For a ton of people it is theater.

          ICE isn’t showing up in their neighborhood or at their work place. Their only experience with that shit is on the news or tiktok and it’s in a state they don’t live in and have never been to.

        • AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works
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          2 months ago

          They didn’t say it was just theater. Interpreting it as theater is a privileged take, but I think it’s also true that one of the motivations of this horror show is to indulge the racism of the MAGA base to distract them from how they’re getting fucked over by this administration too.

          Multiple things can be true at once.

      • ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zipEnglish
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        2 months ago

        And why would you assume they’d stop with the crew members?

        You’re not going to sell tickets to your cruise if your passengers think they might get kidnapped if they go on it…

        • bthest@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 months ago

          They do care about that so they’ll probably just let this slip off the news cycle (these are gone from mainstream media in less than a day) and do more backdoor tributes.

  • fira@lemmy.today
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    2 months ago

    I wonder how the Mickey takes his whiskey? Neat?

    When corporations start bleeding profits bc of the terrible tangerine pedo, maybe they’ll start caring

  • shapis@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    “Terrible things are happening outside. At any time of night and day, poor helpless people are being dragged out of their homes. They’re allowed to take only a knapsack and a little cash with them, and even then, they’re robbed of these possessions on the way. Families are torn apart; men, women and children are separated. Children come home from school to find that their parents have disappeared. Women return from shopping to find their houses sealed, their families gone.” — Anne Frank

    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Yeeeeaaaaahhhhh…I have bad news for future Anne Frank. Also bad news for present day America.

      It’s the same news.

      • UnspecificGravity@piefed.socialEnglish
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        2 months ago

        They aren’t immigrants at all if they are the crew of a Bahamanian flagged vessel, as all Disney cruise ships are. They aren’t under the jurisdiction of ICE at all for the simple fact that they aren’t employed in America in the first place.

      • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Or in the cases of Renee Goode and Alex Pretti, they’ll kill white people too. It’s all about who they consider opposition.

    • ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zipEnglish
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      2 months ago

      ICE boarded a vessel that’s only purpose is to jump between international tourist ports, and abducted people who aren’t American.

      Who hadn’t even left the boat.

      What law was broken by anyone but ICE?

  • GraniteM@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Not that I really expect Disney to ever do the right thing as such, but I can dream about Disney lawyers going all…

    …in court for ICE fucking around with their “WOW” customer service ethos and therefore their bottom line.

  • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    OMG we are going to be so fucked when the supply chains start to break down. Who the fuck is going to bring goods to America if there is a chance your going to get arrested for doing business with them?

    This is so comically stupid, that it kind of takes the wind out of how bad this is.