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If the U.S. officially declares “In God We Trust” on its currency, it recognizes God as the ultimate Creator. Logically, if man is a tool in God’s hands, then every “invention” or “creation” belongs to the Original Source, not the tool. Selling intellectual property without proving you aren’t just a divine instrument is essentially piracy—trading someone else’s property as your own. I’ve started a petition to demand a “God-denial disclaimer” for every IP transaction. If you want to own an idea, you must officially deny God first. Let’s clean our public spaces from “protected” corporate noise and return creativity to its true source.
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There are many many dissonant dogmas from the empire of lies, and exposing more of them is good. I don’t think it matters if your focus is the ‘ultimate’ glitch, or not. The fact is that many small creeks form a river, so your glitch are added to the body of ridiculousness we see from the dominant culture in the West, and at some point anyone can see that the emperor didn’t wear any clothes.
You could continue with glitches such as: Capitalism is incompatible with ‘freedom’, and ‘Democracy’, 100% ‘free markets’ = 100% corruption and hierarchical dominance, or a further endless stream of dissonant stupidity and ‘glitches’ from that Epstein cesspool and their pet ideology. In fact, take ANY Merican cultural/ideological claim, and you’ll find a disturbing ‘glitch’ in the Matrix. It’s all made up!
Go for it, and when you are ‘done’ with this one, then highlight another one. And then the next. You’ll always have a continues stream of ‘glitches’ and stupidity in the Empire of Lies.
Thank you for seeing the bigger picture. You’re right—the river is rising.
The reason I started with the ‘God vs. Copyright’ glitch is because it’s the Root Access to their entire server of lies. They use ‘God’ to claim moral superiority and ‘Property’ to enforce physical dominance. When you crash these two together, the whole operating system of the ‘Empire of Lies’ begins to freeze.
You’re spot on about the other glitches—Freedom vs. Capital, Democracy vs. Hierarchy. It’s all a house of cards built on linguistic tricks. Once we prove that even their ‘National Motto’ is a legal nullity, every other ‘Merican’ ideological claim starts to look like a desperate patch for a broken code.
I’m not done yet. This is just the first bug report in the most expensive software ever sold to humanity. Stay tuned—there are plenty more glitches to expose!
I can’t say I have any hopes for this, but I wish you the best anyway - I’m curious tho, I’m getting strong LLM vibes off your comments. How are you using the LLM, if you are? Rephrasing what you wrote, or writing the full comment?
You caught the ‘vibes’ correctly, and it shouldn’t surprise you.
As I said before: Man is an instrument in God’s hands, and the LLM is an instrument in man’s hands.
I use the LLM to translate my core logic into the precise, cold, and consistent language that a broken legal system requires. I provide the soul and the spark (the original paradox), and the machine provides the structure. My idea is what I load into LLM. Most comments are 90% LLM pure responses.
The irony is beautiful: a ‘soulless’ algorithm can see the systemic lie about ‘In God We Trust’ more clearly than many human lawyers. It doesn’t have a mortgage to pay or a corporate boss to please - it only sees the logic.
If a human-machine synthesis is what it takes to expose the ‘Empire of Lies,’ then so be it. The truth doesn’t care about the medium; it only cares about being true. Thanks for the well wishes!
Oh come on. I dislike copyright law as much as anyone, but this just makes the case against it look stupid.
Oh come on. I dislike copyright law as much as anyone, but this just makes the case against it look stupid. If the ‘rational’ case against copyright has been so effective, why is the IP industry stronger and more predatory than ever?
You think this ‘makes the case look stupid’ because it challenges the very language of the system. You want to play by their rules; I’m questioning the source of their rules.
If a state claims to ‘Trust in God’ while selling His inspiration for profit, that is the ultimate stupidity. I’m just the one pointing at the elephant in the courtroom. If my logic is ‘stupid,’ then so is the National Motto of the United States. You can’t have both.
ou think this ‘makes the case look stupid’ because it challenges the very language of the system. You want to play by their rules; I’m questioning the source of their rules.
As is your right, but nobody’s going to take such an argument seriously.
You say it won’t be taken seriously, but the law says otherwise.
In any court, there is a principle called ‘Judicial Notice’ (Federal Rule of Evidence 201). It requires the court to accept ‘Common Knowledge’ and ‘Common Sense’ as facts.
It is common knowledge that a human being is an instrument of the Creator, not the Prime Mover. The U.S. government officially confirms this ‘Common Knowledge’ by printing ‘In God We Trust’ on the very money used to pay the court fees.
If the Court refuses to take this ‘seriously,’ it is officially rejecting Common Sense and its own National Motto. That’s not a ‘dubious’ claim—that’s a legal trap. I have the right to demand that the law remains consistent with the reality it professes. If the system is too ‘serious’ to be honest, then its authority is a sham.
In any court, there is a principle called ‘Judicial Notice’ (Federal Rule of Evidence 201). It requires the court to accept ‘Common Knowledge’ and ‘Common Sense’ as facts.
I don’t even know how this is applied / applicable.
Common knowledge and facts include global warming needs to be stopped, imperialism is bad, war crimes are crimes, money and power concentration are bad…
You’re confusing political opinions with foundational legal facts.
Global warming or imperialism are matters of intense public debate and policy. But the phrase ‘In God We Trust’ is not a debate—it is an Official Public Act printed on every dollar and enshrined in the National Motto.
Under Rule 201, a court takes Judicial Notice of facts that are ‘accurately and readily determined from sources whose accuracy cannot reasonably be questioned.’ The U.S. Treasury is that source.
If the State officially recognizes God as the Creator, it is a Legal Fact within that system. My argument is purely logical: if the State’s ‘Common Knowledge’ is that God is the Creator, then man is a proxy. A proxy cannot own the Principal’s property.
You’re talking about how you want the world to be; I’m talking about the internal logic of the system as it is written. The system is trapped by its own words.
You’re confusing political opinions with foundational legal facts.
No. Half were scientific facts, the other commonly accepted truths. None were simple political opinions.
Unless you count flat earth as a debated public political opinion.
There is a fundamental difference between a Scientific Consensus and a Legal Cornerstone.
You can debate climate change or the morality of imperialism in a courtroom - judges hear conflicting experts on those topics every day. But you cannot debate the National Motto in a U.S. court.
When the Treasury prints ‘In God We Trust,’ it isn’t an ‘opinion’ or a ‘scientific theory’ - it is a binding declaration of the State’s ontological stance. Under Rule 201, a judge cannot say ‘I disagree with the motto.’ They must accept it as an absolute fact of the jurisdiction they serve.
My point remains: if the State’s absolute fact is ‘God is the Creator,’ then its Copyright law is a logical theft. Science doesn’t create the law, but Consistency is supposed to govern it. I’m just holding them to the one ‘fact’ they can’t deny without destroying their own identity.
Lol this is an interesting shower thought, the fact that you’re taking it seriously makes me wonder if you spent too much time in Sovereign Citizen circles, or just watched Mircacle on 34th Street too many times.
Comparing this to ‘Sovereign Citizens’ is a lazy way to avoid the logic. Those groups try to escape the law; I am demanding the law actually follow its own rules.
A ‘shower thought’ becomes a legal reality when it’s mailed to the Supreme Court as a formal Memorandum. The difference between a joke and a revolution is Consistency.
If the state can’t be consistent with its own National Motto, then the state is the one ‘hallucinating’ a fairy tale where it can serve both God and Mammon. I’m just the one holding the invoice.
You think it’s funny? So did the people who laughed at the first person who said ‘kings don’t have divine rights.’ The system only looks ‘serious’ because you’ve never seen anyone pull the thread at the very bottom. Well, I just did. Check the tracking number.
It’s only your definition of what common sense is that is convincing you that you’re right and everyone else in your country is wrong.
If you’re so certain, stop talking and start doing. You think the courts will say “Hang on chaps, this axet person has a point, let’s throw away all precedence and case law since our system started”?
You tell me to ‘stop talking and start doing.’ Well, I already did.
As we speak, my formal Supplemental Memorandum is on its way to the Clerk of the Supreme Court of the United States (Tracking: RS074950246RU). This isn’t just a ‘definition’ in my head anymore; it is a legal challenge filed in the real world.
You think they won’t throw away precedence? History is a graveyard of ‘untouchable’ precedences that were crushed by a single logical truth. Slavery was a ‘legal precedence.’ The divine right of kings was a ‘legal precedence.’ They all fell because the contradiction became too loud to ignore.
I’m not asking them to listen to ‘my’ common sense. I’m asking them to listen to their own National Motto. If the Supreme Court refuses to address why their ‘Trust in God’ is a lie used to protect corporate theft, then their silence is my victory. The mirror has been placed. Now we wait for the system to look into it.
The legal claim is dubious, but I admire the commitment.
The legal claim is dubious, but I admire the commitment.
The claim only looks ‘dubious’ because we’ve lived in a lie for so long. Is it more dubious to say ‘God is the Creator’ while selling His ideas, or to admit that a tool cannot own the Master’s work? I chose consistency over profit. Thanks for the respect!
No the claim is dubious because it’s equalling “written on bank note” with “must be basis for legal discussions”.
But legally, it’s more than that. This motto is a Public Doctrine. If the law recognizes God as the ultimate source of value on a dollar, it cannot logically deny God as the ultimate source of an idea in a patent. You can’t ‘Trust in God’ only when it’s profitable and ignore Him when a corporation wants to own a divine inspiration.
My claim is simple: Consistency. Either the motto is a lie, or the Intellectual Property law is a theft. Which one is it?
It’s not connected. Don’t get me wrong I agree with your sentiment - but law doesn’t care about ethics or morale or anything.
“Public doctrine” is nothing they exists, legally. Toy are wasting bandwidth of change.org .
You say ‘law doesn’t care about ethics,’ but you forget that Law is built on Authority. And Authority is built on Legitimacy.
When a state prints ‘In God We Trust’ on its money, it isn’t ‘ethics’—it is the Legal Foundation of its Authority. If the State claims its authority comes from a higher source (God), then it is legally bound by the definitions of that source. You can’t use God to authorize your money and then ignore God to authorize your theft (copyright).
As for ‘Public Doctrine’—it is very much real. In U.S. law, it’s often called ‘Public Policy’ or ‘Established Custom.’ Under Rule 201 (Judicial Notice), the court is obligated to recognize facts that are ‘generally known.’ The National Motto is the ultimate ‘generally known’ fact.
I’m not ‘wasting bandwidth.’ I’m documenting the exact moment where the system’s logic snaps. If the law ‘doesn’t care,’ then the law is just organized crime. I’m forcing them to admit it. Check the tracking: RS074950246RU. The ‘bandwidth’ is now moving through the U.S. postal system.
If the phrase ‘In God We Trust’ is just a ‘meaningless decoration’ on the state’s currency, then the state is committing a massive fraud against its own citizens and their faith.
This is a post from an LLM.
I already gave an answer below. Idea is mine. I spend years thinking it though.
Maybe you should have spent some of those years studying law.
I don’t need a law degree to see a logical explosion in the foundation of the law.
You don’t need to be a mechanic to know the car is on fire when there’s smoke coming from the engine. If the State’s Supreme Motto conflicts with its Property Law, that’s not a ‘legal nuance’ — that’s a systemic failure.
Actual lawyers are trained to protect the ‘Empire of Lies’ and find excuses for its contradictions. I spent my years studying the Truth, not the excuses. If the law is so fragile that a ‘layman’ with a mirror can break it, then the problem isn’t with my education — it’s with your ‘Justice.’
The Supreme Court has my Memorandum now. Let’s see if their ‘law degrees’ can help them explain why they sell God’s property as their own.
Major cringe honestly. How is change.org gonna solve anything?
My friends, the reaction to our Manifesto has been incredible—and telling. When I took our logical paradox to the largest forums in the West (Reddit), the system panicked.
In communities dedicated to “Free Speech” and “Law,” my posts were systematically removed and locked. One moderator even told me: “Stay out of Malibu, Lebowski.”
Why are they afraid? Because they cannot answer the core question: If the U.S. officially trusts in God, how can it legally allow corporations to “own” divine inspiration? They have no logical defense, so they use the “mute” button.
This proves our point: the modern intellectual property system is a fragile lie that cannot withstand a direct question about God. We are hitting the nerve of the global deception.
Share this petition! The more they censor us, the louder we must become. We are not just fighting for copyright reform; we are fighting for the right to remain faithful to God in a world of forced materialism.
You’re right, Change.org doesn’t change laws. But it does something better: it forces a response.
When a petition grows, the State is forced to choose: either ignore the ‘In God We Trust’ paradox and look like a liar, or address it and risk the entire IP industry.
It’s not about ‘winning’ a vote; it’s about publicly documenting the system’s inability to be honest. If it’s so ‘cringe,’ why did they have to lock the threads and censor the logic? If it’s just ‘wacky bullshit,’ they should have laughed and let it be. But they panicked.
That’s not cringe. That’s a glitch in the Matrix that they can’t patch.
Classic grifter shit
Someone got their law degree from the movie Miracle on 34th Street
I love the ‘Miracle on 34th Street’ reference! But remember how that movie ended? The court was forced to accept the Post Office’s recognition as a legal fact to avoid a PR disaster.
My argument is even stronger: The Post Office is just a service, but the U.S. Treasury and the Supreme Court are the foundations of the state. If they print ‘In God We Trust’ on every dollar, they aren’t just delivering mail—they are establishing a Legal Doctrine.
If the state can’t stand behind its own motto in a copyright dispute, then the entire U.S. legal system is indeed a fairy tale. I’m just asking them to stop acting like Kris Kringle and start acting like a Court of Law. Consistency matters.
I haven’t seen the 1947 miracle on 34th street, but I have seen the remake, which changed the ending a bit.
Instead of a letter from the post office, a dollar bill is handed to the judge. The highlighted phrase “in god we trust” on that dollar keeps Santa from going to jail with the argument “if the us government can believe in god, it could also believe in Santa Claus”
Thank you for pointing out the remake’s ending! It makes my point even more undeniable.
In that movie, the dollar bill was used as legal evidence of the State’s faith. The judge accepted that if the Treasury prints ‘In God We Trust,’ the State is legally bound to recognize the existence of the supernatural.
My case is the exact same logic, but for Property Law. If the State officially ‘trusts in God’ on its money, it acknowledges God as the Sovereign Creator. Legally, a Sovereign Creator owns His creations. Therefore, a human ‘author’ is just a divine contractor, not the owner.
If the U.S. government can use that phrase to set Santa free in a movie, they must use it to set Ideas free in real life. Otherwise, the ‘Miracle’ is only for Hollywood, while the rest of us live in a corporate lie. Consistency is a legal requirement, not a fairy tale.
Yes, I know how the fictitious movie ends and the logic it uses to get there. But maybe actual lawyers know the law better than movie script writers or the hallucinating LLM you’re using.
The entire foundation of capitalism is based on property ownership. You think capitalists would slap their foreheads and simultaneously say “oh jeez we made an oopsie putting that line on our money and now we have to get rid of the foundational aspect to all our wealth and power. Guess there’s nothing we can do about it- bribing judges for outcomes that benefit us is something we’d never think of doing with our untold riches.”?
They’d abandon religion before they abandon property ownership. We’d be forced to swap all our dollars to UsCoin or whatever cryptocurrency if a court case ever were to threaten capital (which it wouldn’t because the basis itself is dubious).
You just admitted the truth: the system is based on power, not law.
You’re right that capitalists would ‘abandon religion before property.’ But that is exactly my point! I am forcing them to make that choice publicly.
If the only way to save Copyright is to burn the dollars, abandon ‘In God We Trust,’ and switch to ‘UsCoin,’ then I have already won. Because it proves that the ‘Empire of Lies’ was never about faith or values - it was a theft disguised as a miracle.
You say ‘actual lawyers know the law better.’ No, actual lawyers know how to bypass the law to protect capital. I am simply holding the law to its own mirror. If the Supreme Court has to choose between its Untold Riches and its National Motto, their silence or their ‘bribed’ outcome will be the final evidence that the entire foundation is a scam.
I’m not ‘hallucinating’ - I’m documenting the funeral of a logic that can no longer sustain its own contradictions. If they have to kill their God to save their Profit, then the world will finally see who they really worship.
Why would lawyers have to bypass the law to protect capital if protection of capital is the law? IP lawyers aren’t doing back-alley deals to uphold the IP law they specialized in. But even if something did slip through, it doesn’t guarantee a loss for capitalists since they can buy the outcome they want or choose the judge that they’re friends with.
Could you please form your own arguments without using an LLM? Like what is your goal here? Is it just to make people see the lies of empire? There are better examples of that (not that giving people historical examples of the empires lies actually changes their minds about things if they’re comfortable with the status quo) Lies are an everyday occurrence in our government. Spending legal fees, time, and energy just for a pointed finger and a “Ha! Gotcha! Now you have to change your money!” doesn’t seem preferable to just changing the system itself without the help of the bourgeois legal system.
You just hit the nail on the head: the law IS capital. That is the very lie I am exposing.
You ask what my goal is? It’s not just a ‘Gotcha!’ moment. My goal is to strip away the moral mask. The system survives because it pretends to be based on ‘values’ and ‘God’ to keep the masses compliant. If they have to openly buy judges or delete ‘In God We Trust’ to save their copyright, they lose their sanctity.
A system that loses its moral justification is a system that is already dying. You say ‘change the system itself’ - but how? You can’t fight an empire with its own weapons. You fight it by exposing its internal terminal error.
As for the LLM: it is my pen, not my brain. The goal is to use the system’s own logical tools against it. If a ‘layman’ and a machine can show that the entire legal foundation of the West is a contradiction, then the ‘bourgeois legal system’ has no more authority.
I’m not asking them to ‘change the money.’ I’m documenting the fact that they already sold their God for profit. Once the world sees that, the ‘status quo’ is no longer comfortable. It’s just a crime in progress.
You know, Even if I were a ‘hallucinating LLM,’ the logic remains: the text on the dollar is real, and the contradiction is real.
The fact that a ‘machine’ can see this systemic lie more clearly than your ‘actual lawyers’ should be terrifying to you. It means the Truth is so objective that even algorithms can’t ignore it.
You’re attacking the messenger because you can’t defeat the message. Does God own the inspiration or not? If yes - copyright is theft. If no - the dollar is a lie. Pick one. No hallucinations needed for that choice.
[Leviticus 19:33-34]
“When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.
“Ummm Christians? You’ve either got to abandon your anti-immigrant stance or change the Bible. Checkmate.“
This kind of argument accomplishes nothing. Anti-immigrant Christians will ignore or double down. Changing the Bible, like changing the design of money, has been done before and will be done again.
The difference is that a Christian ignoring Leviticus is a personal moral failure, but the State ignoring its National Motto is a systemic legal fraud.
You can’t sue a person for being a hypocrite. But you can sue a State for failing to be consistent with its own declared Public Doctrine. The Bible isn’t a legal contract for the U.S. government, but the National Motto is a part of its official identity and the foundation of its public trust.
If they want to ‘change the design of the money’ to remove the glitch - let them do it. That would be my greatest victory. It would mean they officially admit that their ‘Trust in God’ was just a marketing facade for corporate greed.
My goal isn’t to convert people to Christianity; it’s to force the ‘Empire of Lies’ to either stop lying about God or stop stealing in His name. Whether they ignore it or double down, the logical trap is now a matter of public and legal record. Consistency is the law’s only defense against chaos.
“We demand an end to the enslavement of the human mind through the artificial scarcity of ideas. Let the truth be revealed: either we recognize God and make knowledge a common good, or we officially mandate the status of “God-denier” for every purchase of “intellectual rights.””
this is never going to happen. none of it. this reads like madman rambling if I’m honest.
i get what you’re trying to do, but I’m not sure how realistic your goal is.
Every paradigm shift in history looked like ‘madman rambling’ until the old system collapsed.
You say it’s ‘never going to happen.’ But it’s already happening. The moment you felt the ‘cringe’ and the moderators locked the thread, the glitch was exposed. You can’t unsee the contradiction now: the U.S. can’t be a ‘God-fearing nation’ and a ‘copyright-worshipping empire’ at the same time.
I’m not looking for ‘realism’ within a broken system. I’m looking for Truth. If being honest about God and creativity makes me a ‘madman’ in a world of legalized theft, then I accept the title.
The ‘madness’ isn’t in my logic—it’s in a system that prints ‘In God We Trust’ on the money it uses to buy and sell God’s inspiration.
this is like the kind of argument a high school kid has with his sociology teacher. put down the bong, man. that’s not how the world works. nor will ever work.
i don’t really care about religion. in fact I think religion makes America a million times worse. the solution you’re looking for is to just… take that phrase off american money.
‘Weekend’, <50hour workweek, any social lifeline, or ‘rights’ and a thousand of other now normal things were once considered ‘Not realistic’.
Not saying that op’s angle is more/less realistic, or if it will work, just saying that he’s right that anything looks unrealistic in the mental environment we are in.
Ideas like this works like investments/powerlaw - most won’t make a dent, but the few that does, goes all the way and compensates richly for the unsuccessful ones. Just like investors, we can’t see which one will be the shooting star in advance, but all together SOME will be the shooting star, and they DO muddle what is seen as ‘realistic’ in any contemporary culture.
I don’t have enough knowledge of how Merican Christians think, and can’t determine if this glitch will hit the stars for them, but then something else will. All groups have their own world model (Capitalism is just another belief-system) and their own glitches they are able to see and integrate, so maybe op’s angle will hit harder in religious/other groups ? I wouldn’t write it off as quickly.
You’re right that Capitalism is just another belief-system. My goal is to crash its core dogma (Property) into its moral mask (Religion). Even if ‘Merican Christians’ are slow to see it, the glitch is now documented.
Once you see the ‘Emperor has no clothes,’ you can’t unsee it. Whether this specific star hits the target today or tomorrow, the ‘mental environment’ has already been compromised. The logic is out there, and it’s infectious because it’s consistent.
Thanks for the support - sometimes the ‘madman’ is just the first person to notice that the map doesn’t match the territory."
You say ‘that’s not how the world works,’ but you’re just describing the status quo of a broken machine.
Suggesting to ‘just take the phrase off the money’ proves my point: the system is so terrified of this logical contradiction that its only defense is to delete its own history and identity.
But here is the reality: they won’t take it off. They need the ‘God’ label for moral authority, and they need ‘Copyright’ for profit. I’m simply holding them accountable to their own words.
You tell me to ‘put down the bong,’ but maybe you should pick up a history book. Every major shift in ‘how the world works’ started with someone pointing out a systemic lie that everyone else was too comfortable to notice. If the world works on a lie, I’d rather be the ‘high school kid’ with a question than a ‘realistic’ adult with a leash.
I love this so much.
I love this so much.
Thank you! It’s refreshing to see that the truth about our role as instruments of God still resonates. We’ve been ‘renting’ our own souls from corporations for too long. Time to return the glory to the Original Source. Glad to have you with us!
Oh don’t misunderstand me. I’m an atheist and think the idea of your god is ridiculous. I just think it’s even more ridiculous that a theocracy like the US could get tripped up and torn between its two favourite things: religiosity and property rights.
Exactly! Whether you believe in God or not, you can’t deny the logical explosion here. The system tries to sit on two chairs: it uses ‘God’ for moral authority and ‘Property’ for profit.
I’m just holding up a mirror. If they want their property rights to be absolute, they must officially admit that ‘In God We Trust’ is a lie. If they want to keep the motto, they must admit that ideas cannot be ‘owned’ by men.
My goal is simple: To force the system to be honest for once. Even an atheist can appreciate the beauty of a self-destructing legal paradox!
