(iii) Proposed provisions specifying that the USPS shall not transmit mail-in or absentee ballots from any individual unless those individuals have been enrolled on a State-specific list described in subsection (b)(iv) of this section with the USPS pursuant to this subsection.
April… ah what the fuck
The white trash presidency.
What’s that!!? The fat orange child rapist who tried to incite an insurrection a few years ago is now trying to fix and fuck things up in other ways?
Well well well, what a complete and utter shock. If only there was a way for america to have seen this coming…Tried to incite and succeeded at inciting insurrection.
I love that the noose of reality is tightening around this regime’s neck.
However, as they see the end they’re getting more and more dangerous, because there’s no way they’re going to let themselves face justice at the end. I predict this summer and fall are going to be the darkest times of my lifetime, and potentially a lot of violence from the regime.
I genuinely fear that ICE will be arresting people that look like they will vote democrat. You can’t vote if you’re sitting in a cell overnight. States like California and Illinois might protect their citizens. But states like Georgia (which has a democratic senator up for reelection) likely will give ICE free reign.
I love that the noose of reality is tightening around this regime’s neck
I mean, I remember this gleeful enthusiasm back in 2006 and 2018. Very likely there’s a bloodbath in the next election. But… what comes next?
Will Dems actually be in charge of the Senate? Or do we get the “John Fetterman Says No” show for the next two years?
Does the House try and rein in the President or just double down on war funding while doing photo ops of Hakeem Jeffries shrugging impotently?
Go back to Pelosi’s House under Bush. And Pelosi/Schumer under Trump 1. These were not inspiring moments of liberal leadership. More often than not, Dems don’t stop the fascism. They just cash in and become complicit.
Yeah I’m well aware of the copium. One realistic way that I see change happening is the regime does something so heinous and appalling in the next 6-12 months that everyone will get angry enough and, while it won’t lead to a direct overthrow, a lot of the farther left candidates will gain more and more power.
This act would have to be like, murdering a crowd of protestors so they can’t vote or something. I should clarify a crowd of white, straight, middle class protestors***
I have no hope for the actual Democratic party of course. They’re controlled opposition at best. It just so happens the progressives caucus with the Ds for now. We really need to abolish FPTP in all states, and implement RCV or approval/score voting, to start moving away from the duopoly, but of course the people in power would never willingly give up power.
J6 was just a practice run. This revenge tour he’s shown us the past year only proves he will not go down without a fight… and his base are so embolden now, they will absolutely do whatever the hell they want knowing their king will back them up.
Authoritarianism is an admission of abject weakness.
White supremacists are the weakest and most brittle snowflakes.
We really need to start melting them down.
Oregon has ballot drop off places and don’t go through the USPS. Get fucked Donny.
This is the move if anybody else has them. Take no chances with the USPS on this unless it’s wholly struck down prior to the midterms and even then I would be wary.
But you get your blank ballot in the mail.
Same in Washington and pretty much every vote by mail state.
Yeah, I had the same thought. The order does say “from” any individual rather than “to” (i.e. when ballots are sent from voting office and addressed to the voter).
Though cynical me doubts this distinction will matter when it comes to delaying/withholding ballots in either direction.
Washington state is the same.
What the fuck.
Also, what’s with this federal voter list nonsense? There’s already a fucking voter registry.
Elections are run by each state, including registration. That means when they want to fuck with the registry they have to do it in a state by state basis, making specific lawsuits that target that state’s system. They want to make it federal so they can just drop whoever they want from the registry without having to go through state officials.
Besides being a blatant attempt to enable widespread disenfranchisement, it is also highly unconstitutional. The states run elections, following regulations set by Congress. The executive branch should have no power here, and the executive order should be struck down immediately, but who fucking knows at this point.
I hope someone finally nails him with treason after he gets out of office.
In not usually one to support capital punishment, but he really seems to have crossed that threshold to justify it…
Of course, that’s for the courts and the jury to decide. If they ever do their jobs…
lol, no. Forget about it.
Even if Dems manage to get control again, they’re going to go straight to “we need to heal the divided country” mode, which means frequently compromising with the Republican minority and ‘forgive and forget’ for all of the Republican’s crimes. After all, they wouldn’t ever want to prosecute anyone in the other party – that might make it look as if they’re pushing politically motivated prosecutions!
Let me dream, it’s all I have…
How about instead, you start dreaming of an indefinite general strike that grabs the economy by the balls until our demands are met?
I can dream about more than one thing, you know…
I hope he has a stroke and goes into a shut-in syndrome coma
And leave vance in charge without even dispelling his loyal base?
Look, I want to see the guy kiel over as much as anybody, but we all know Vance can’t get elected, so waltzing into the presidency without an election and simultaneously dropping all the baggage of his predecessor is probably going to be the best thing that could happen for the republican party.
Much better if we let the guy’s time expire, let the voters deal out the consequences, and let the republican party shatter without a clear leader to take his place…
Lol, my dude…History will gladly demonstrate for you, that when you have a fascist leader already in power, there is only one way they “leave office”…and it doesn’t permit much time for a trial after.
Then would anyone care to demonstrate what you mean?
and the executive order should be struck down immediately, but who fucking knows at this point.
1: The executive order is blocked by a federal court.
2: Supreme Court issues a stay on that block, allowing the EO to continue until the Supreme Court is able to review it.
3: Supreme Court slow-walks their review of it, delaying until after the election.
4: Supreme Court ‘does the right thing’ and decides it’s unconstitutional … after the election, once it’s too late.
That’s precisely how they blocked Jack Smith’s prosecution from going forward before the election…
That and a lot of help from Garland and therefore Biden.
You don’t appoint a lifetime Republican by the book timid conservative (in every sense of the word) AG if you want to expedite justice for crimes the book never even IMAGINED, much less drew a jurisprudence roadmap for.
While the Mango Mussolini and his fellow fascists are of course the main culprits, ALL the people with the vested power to do anything has failed the population so profoundly that only blind followers will have any trust left regardless of whether or not the fascists successfully steal the midterms.
I still maintain that Jack Smith did all he could with the time he was allotted to work on the case (less than two years from the time he was appointed), and he did a damn fine job, presented a bulletproof argument to congress, and secured two grand jury indictments totalling 41 felony charges. Aileen Cannon and Scotus are to blame for delaying those cases until after the election.
If the next Democratic president appoints Jack Smith to be Attorney General, I’d say that’s a damn good pick.
Yet another tactic to prevent “the wrong people” from voting. But a lot has already been happening even before this. States have been passing laws over the last several years that mail-in ballots can only be counted if they physically arrive at he Election office before Election Day.
It used to be with most states that a ballot would be counted if it arrived by X number of days after Election Day as long as it was postmarked by that day. And it used to be that your mail was postmarked the same day you mailed it, proving for example that you sent in your tax return on time. But not any more. The USPS is now saying that your item might not be postmarked for some time after you actually mail it, depending on when they get around to processing it.
Depending on where you live, relying on a postmark to prove you mailed your tax return, mail-in ballot, bill payment or any other time-sensitive document by a specific date may no longer work as you expect. As the U.S. Postal Service continues implementing operational changes in an effort to shore up its finances and modernize its infrastructure, the agency expects an increase in delays between when you mail something and when it is postmarked, according to a public notice in the Federal Register that took effect Dec. 24. A postmark shows the date your mail was processed, and historically has been applied the same day you mail an item. However, due to limiting pickups at many postal locations and mail now often traveling farther to regional processing centers where the postmark is applied, “the postmark date does not inherently or necessarily align with the date on which the Postal Service first accepted possession of the mailpiece,” the notice reads.
Mail-in ballots are clearly recognizable in their special envelopes (so they would get priority treatment). So it’s very easy for the Post Office to sort out those ballots from the other mail. And depending on the state, besides your signature it will have your name and return address they could scan and compare to a list, or at the very least they know where it was mailed from. So they could easily screen out ballots from people areas more likely to vote Democratic and simply delay postmarking them until past the deadline, or just hold up delivery to make sure they’re late.
I would say we should avoid voting by mail, or if you do, mail it well before the deadline AND consider driving to a post office in an affluent, white, or in general Republican-leaning area and mailing it from there. But really, at least for the next couple of federal election cycles or for as long as magats are in power, I recommend voting early and in person at the Election office if at all possible.
That change on its own, really isn’t as nefarious as it seems. It was always postmarked where it first was processed into the mail stream, now that’s just taking place at regional centers.
You could always get it postmarked at the desk, and were encouraged to do so as there was no guarantee it would be processed the same day. You can still do that.
Fascism, plain and simple.
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Our Congress has allowed a lawless president to do whatever he wanted. It is a MAGA coup dresses as Republicans.
This is pretty much the Republican project all along.
what I don’t understand is why don’t they just come out and say “ok, no more elections. this is a dictatorship now” like they keep tip toeing around it, they keep breaking the law, insider trading, illegal operations, all of it and they’ve gotten away with it every time. So why do they keep teasing something they know they have a strong possibility of getting away with? who are they afraid of?
They’re following the Hungary model, which in turn was a variation on the Russian model.
What they’re attempting is a “legal coup,” which is the typical modern democracy-to-authoritarianism transition. They want to retain the facade of constitutionality and lawfulness, to avoid creating an armed insurgency situation, and to avoid burning the value of the current economic system by crashing the stock market or causing investment to flee.
It’s to pacify the enlightened centrists who will go along with it as long as it’s supposedly ‘what the people want’.
Doesn’t Russia still hold elections where Putin always wins? Or North Korea?
I think the idea is you keep having elections so you can say you won.
As opposed to the wonderful and free America, which holds elections where we get a choice between one of two candidates favored by corporate oligarchs. Candidates who are appointed to the candidacy, if the parties so wish, by “[going] into back rooms like they used to and [smoking] cigars and [picking] the candidate that way”, as acknowledged by our own courts.
Sure, a third party candidate can run, but without funding they have no actual chance of winning even if their message would otherwise resonate with the public. That’s not a functional republic or a functional democracy, it’s democracy theater put on by our ruling class to appease the working masses.
Whataboutism.
A. We weren’t talking about that.
B. Yes it sucks too, but the alternative, which we were actually talking about, is objectively worse.
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I know, you were spreading western exceptionalism talking points, which is what I wanted to dispel.
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North Korea has killed fewer people than America. I’m obviously not pro-Russia but just quantifiably, they have also killed fewer people than America (especially if we’re talking Russia as a current political entity and not USSR). Both also contribute less per-capita to the climate change destroying our planet. So “worse” by what metric exactly?
EDIT: Whole lotta downvotes, notable absence of actual responses. Liberal moment. “Worse” by what metric?
Now they are talking about killing people and the climate. How far we stray, to be edgy.
What are you yapping about?
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Checks and balances doesn’t work if one party is in charge of everything. I found the John Oliver episode about Hungary to be particularly terrifying.
Imagine if Trump rigged the election so they had a super majority in the senate and a majority in the house. They could rewrite the constitution. What then?
Re-writing the constitution (e.g., amendments) also takes approval from the states themselves.
According to … the constitution
There’s some circular logic happening which Trump sees through. Much like SCOTUS, the constitution can’t enforce itself. So you can just bully it.
There have been cases before where the States threatened to delcare the Constitution null and void due to a pending violation. Contrary to what people think, the States have quite a bit of leeway to deal with things. So far, they have been trying to deal with things legally.
True. I guess he can interpret it however he wants and trust that the supremely court will back him.
I saw he will be the first president sitting in on arguments to the supremely court. I wonder if this is an attempt to intimidate justices that might go against him.
I mean if that doesnt provoke a civil war nothing ever will
It won’t. I’d be more likely to leave the country than to die for it.
Checks and balances doesn’t work if one party is in charge of everything.
Nixon could not have been convicted without Republican votes. But Nixon resigned, because he knew Republicans would vote to impeach and convict him. So the system can in theory work, even if the system depends on policing its own.
It is in fact quite normal across democracies, for stuff like this to depend on the votes of the party in power.
The problem here is that Republican representatives are traitors to their oaths. And more importantly, that Republican voters are not demanding their representatives to not be traitors.
So Republican representatives simply know that they only get reelected if they act tribally Republican. Note that this is generally not a problem with Democrat voters.
Nixon had to be charged with crimes and serve prison time for the system to have worked. As usual politicians get that magical get out of jail card when the exact opposite should be happening. They should be held to much higher standards and punishments.
Ford pardoned Nixon, and Ford lost the next election. And the pardon probably played a part in Ford losing. So the system still sorta worked then, if imperfect.
Nixon was never officially charged with any crime. The modern day pardon is an extremely corrupt practice as evidenced by the current administration. It should be removed entirely honestly.
If it is allowed it should be the responsibility of a non-partisan committee. The president could refer someone but should have zero power over it. I think it would still be abused, but at least there could be some checks and balances.
Just make it for death row inmates only. Other than that it should just be handled by the courts.
So Republican representatives simply know that they only get reelected if they act tribally Republican. Note that this is generally not a problem with Democrat voters.
Ironically, it turns into a problem for Democrat voters.
Link?
There are no laws; we made the whole thing up
My suggestion for anyone voting in the US. Vote early in person if possible. If you are going to vote by mail, do it ASAP.
That’s the best way to get your ballot counted, which is the most important thing right now.
Oh, and check your registration, like today. And tomorrow. And like once a week.
The worst time to vote is election day. Avoid that at all costs.
I’m even making sure I get all my IDs renewed that need to be just in case that’s another hurdle the GOP wants to put in front of people at the last minute.
Also, if your elections department has ballot drop boxes, utilize those rather than send through USPS.
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Just use USPS to send out a letter
You are registered to vote absentee and your ballot should arrive on [Date].
However, due to federal election interference we cannot guarantee you will get your ballot by mail. If there is any delay we recommend you contact this number XXXX for direct delivery/transportation services or retrieve a new ballot in person at [Address]
Would still suppress turnout but at least there’s no ballot to confiscate
Is it legal to say “we need a revolution to overthrow Trump, and fast”?
Ask the French. They may have some pointers.
Winners get to define the rules. Be sure you win.
It depends on who’s hearing/reading it and if you consider their edicts legal.
“Um ackshyually”
Artemis II…space! We’re all going to space!
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