(iii) Proposed provisions specifying that the USPS shall not transmit mail-in or absentee ballots from any individual unless those individuals have been enrolled on a State-specific list described in subsection (b)(iv) of this section with the USPS pursuant to this subsection.
I just instructed the president to lick my balls. I don’t think he will though.
Are you Benjamin Netanyahu? Because he would.
Depends. Are you 12?
I think he only rapes girls tho
Good point.
Their username contains “bill”, so maybe they’re Clinton, possibly aka Bubba, in which case according to the Epstein files Trump may have already blown him, unless Bubba was the horse…
My suggestion for anyone voting in the US. Vote early in person if possible. If you are going to vote by mail, do it ASAP.
That’s the best way to get your ballot counted, which is the most important thing right now.
Oh, and check your registration, like today. And tomorrow. And like once a week.
The worst time to vote is election day. Avoid that at all costs.
I’m even making sure I get all my IDs renewed that need to be just in case that’s another hurdle the GOP wants to put in front of people at the last minute.
Also, if your elections department has ballot drop boxes, utilize those rather than send through USPS.
I love that the noose of reality is tightening around this regime’s neck.
However, as they see the end they’re getting more and more dangerous, because there’s no way they’re going to let themselves face justice at the end. I predict this summer and fall are going to be the darkest times of my lifetime, and potentially a lot of violence from the regime.
J6 was just a practice run. This revenge tour he’s shown us the past year only proves he will not go down without a fight… and his base are so embolden now, they will absolutely do whatever the hell they want knowing their king will back them up.
I love that the noose of reality is tightening around this regime’s neck
I mean, I remember this gleeful enthusiasm back in 2006 and 2018. Very likely there’s a bloodbath in the next election. But… what comes next?
Will Dems actually be in charge of the Senate? Or do we get the “John Fetterman Says No” show for the next two years?
Does the House try and rein in the President or just double down on war funding while doing photo ops of Hakeem Jeffries shrugging impotently?
Go back to Pelosi’s House under Bush. And Pelosi/Schumer under Trump 1. These were not inspiring moments of liberal leadership. More often than not, Dems don’t stop the fascism. They just cash in and become complicit.
Yeah I’m well aware of the copium. One realistic way that I see change happening is the regime does something so heinous and appalling in the next 6-12 months that everyone will get angry enough and, while it won’t lead to a direct overthrow, a lot of the farther left candidates will gain more and more power.
This act would have to be like, murdering a crowd of protestors so they can’t vote or something. I should clarify a crowd of white, straight, middle class protestors***
I have no hope for the actual Democratic party of course. They’re controlled opposition at best. It just so happens the progressives caucus with the Ds for now. We really need to abolish FPTP in all states, and implement RCV or approval/score voting, to start moving away from the duopoly, but of course the people in power would never willingly give up power.
I genuinely fear that ICE will be arresting people that look like they will vote democrat. You can’t vote if you’re sitting in a cell overnight. States like California and Illinois might protect their citizens. But states like Georgia (which has a democratic senator up for reelection) likely will give ICE free reign.
Oregon has ballot drop off places and don’t go through the USPS. Get fucked Donny.
This is the move if anybody else has them. Take no chances with the USPS on this unless it’s wholly struck down prior to the midterms and even then I would be wary.
But you get your blank ballot in the mail.
Same in Washington and pretty much every vote by mail state.
Yeah, I had the same thought. The order does say “from” any individual rather than “to” (i.e. when ballots are sent from voting office and addressed to the voter).
Though cynical me doubts this distinction will matter when it comes to delaying/withholding ballots in either direction.
Washington state is the same.
Do you smell that??
Fear. Fear and shit. Someone’s diaper needs changed.
Unfortunately, this type of interference can be effective while challenges sloooooooooowly move throughthe courts.
LOL. Based MBFC:
I noticed they similarly (and correctly) downgraded/tanked the credibility rating for cdc.gov as well.
Gold!
Almost like that recent ruling that people can’t sue the Post Office for shit like this was setting it up…
“How 'bout no?”
-USPS
For a voting system that has NOT had ANY significant fraud…yet.
This is evil.
It will eventually be thrown out in regular and appellate courts after it has had the effect they wanted on the upcoming election. Then SCOTUS will give it a green light because they are part of the authoritarian oligarchy.
after it has had the effect they wanted on the upcoming election
I don’t think the anti-GOP sentiment is confined to elderly liberal voters.
Also, Eight states – California, Colorado, Hawaii, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, Vermont, and Washington – conduct what is commonly referred to as an all-mail election, or universal mail-in voting. In these states, voting is conducted primarily by mail, and all eligible voters receive a ballot by default
I’m not sure how post offices in these states could even respond.
The effect is sowing further distrust in voting by mail and suppressing the vote of people who are being targeted by the government in other areas. In those states anyone who knows citizens who were targeted by ICE could easily assume the same harassment of citizens will happen with mail in votes as well.
Just because it isn’t feasible to implement doesn’t mean the chilling effect won’t happen.
The effect is sowing further distrust in voting by mail
Colorado and Oregon consistently have some of the highest voter turnout in the country.
Idk if this works in practice.
From the GOP perspective, this explains why Colorado is a Democratic island in the otherwise “real American” range states. They probably tell each other that without all the fake, mail-in ballots, Colorado would be as red as Wyoming and Utah.
From the GOP perspective, this explains why Colorado is a Democratic island
Colorado isn’t a Democratic island. New Mexico and Arizona are also blue states. Nevada’s solid purple, regularly sending up a mix of Ds and Rs. There’s no shortage of conservatives in Colorado, either. Lauren Boebert is from Colorado, ffs. She’s got an enormous constituency of evangelical lunatic supporters and die-hard Republicans. Trump lost Colorado in 2016 by a Gary Johnson’s margin. It was straight up winnable back under Compassionate Conservative Bush Jr.
They probably tell each other that without all the fake, mail-in ballots, Colorado would be as red as Wyoming and Utah.
Sure. And Democrats keep insisting Texas is winnable if all the non-voters turn out, nevermind how a rising volume of overall voters only ever breaks for Republicans.
Nevertheless, shutting down mail-in voting in Colorado won’t benefit Republicans in any meaningful way.
USPS is run by unions, they’re not going to give a shit what Trump’s letter to Santa says. The State controls the election process, periodt.
I’m not sure how post offices in these states could even respond.
By laughing and ignoring it, having the Governors and Attorneys General of those states countermand it with their own executive orders / statements, just straight up saying that this is plainly obviously unconstitutional.
They could then also threaten legal action against anyone at the USPS who does not listen to them.
Its yet another Constitutional Crisis, any way you look at it, but, its not like there’s just no possible response.
The President is straight up demanding that Postal Workers engage in a conspiracy to, amongst other things… tamper with people’s mail.
So, any manager or supervisor who orders that be done? 30,000 counts of mail fraud, you’re arrested and go to jail forever.
Set up a state tip line for USPS workers to report anything like that happening.
This is how all of these ridiculous eos should be handled. It’s nuts that everybody is just doing what mango Mussolini decrees.
Its nuts, but this is basically just how fascism works.
More than enough people, politicians and the populace, basically just get stun locked by the pure audacity of ‘you can just do stuff’, as all the ‘norms’ that were never formalized just evaporate.
The response is at first bureacratic, procedural, untill it becomes extremely obvious that the entire strategy of the fascists is to weaponize everything.
Even then, it tends to take a while for most people and politicians to actually begin to react in kind, strategically, seriously, largely because they are afraid of… further destroying the norms that the fascists already destroyed.
Normalcy bias. “It can’t happen here” exceptionalism. Cowardice. Incompetence. Propoganda. Historical illiteracy.
Take your pick.
If state governors were more clever, they’d be coming up with reasons to keep their National Guard busy doing something ‘important’ in their states, literally just to deny them from being mobilized Federally, or make it more procedurally difficult and more of a PR mess for the Feds to do so.
The federal government has no control over voting, it is 100% controlled by the states. The post offices are not legally allowed to do anything to the ballots other than deliver them.
They don’t care what they’re allowed to do. They care about what’s technically feasible. They’re exploiting the fact that they can break the law precisely in ways that empower themselves to be above the law before the law can come back around to them. It’s analogous to crowning Trump king and issuing a decree that the transition from president to king was legitimate. What’s the constitution going to do?
They can respond by just trashing ALL of the ballots - remember the ruling a month or so ago saying they weren’t liable for shit if they did?
They can. But will they? These post offices are run by the same people doing the voting, after all.
It’s one thing to tell a post office in Utah to trash all the ballots and just hand the keys of state off to the local Mormon Bishopry. Very much another to give the order in Washington State.
All it takes is a few traitors at key points.
That cuts both ways.
Except Dems always play by the rules, to their detriment. I liked Michelle Obama but that “they go low, we go high” shit has been causing problems for far too long.
Except Dems always play by the rules
No they don’t!
They say they do, but they routinely break conventions and norms and laws and constitutional amendments when it’s convenient for them and their donor base.
More often than not, they wait for a Republican to do it first and then just keep on keeping on.
But they don’t follow the rules. They use the rules to excuse why they refuse to enact popular policies. They deflect and defer and soccer-flop.
“they go low, we go high”
Obama did drone strikes on children.
Scotus isn’t always on Trumps side.
They don’t have to rule in his favor 100% of the time to be on his side.
In fact, they boost their own alleged legitimacy by occasionally ruling against the regime.
Maybe. However, SCOTUS might not green light it. Loot at the ruling on the tariff case. Roberts, Barrett and/or Gorsuch could join with the liberal wing and hold the line. Of course, Trump is still going to try to deploy troops and chaos at polling places to scare off voters. I think the shit is definitely going to hit the fan in the fall.
SCOTUS backed down from that one because their billionaire owners didn’t like the complete anarchy of the tariffs. This one increases billionaires power over the populace via voter intimidation so SCOTUS will be fine with it.
I see it more as the court recognizing that if they just rubber stamp Trump’s wishes, they destroy their own power, and Trump is notorious for fucking over pretty much everyone that joins him. In this instance, they would effectively be handing total control over to Trump, who is clearly face-planting across the board, destroying the U.S. in the process.
Extremely seditious, and absolutely disqualifying all on its own under 14A3
It forbade the use of “disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language” about the United States government, its flag, or its armed forces or that caused others to view the American government or its institutions with contempt. Those convicted under the act generally received sentences of imprisonment for five to 20 years.[2] The act also allowed the Postmaster General to refuse to deliver mail that met those same standards for punishable speech or opinion. It applied only to times “when the United States is in war”. The U.S. was in a declared state of war at the time of passage, the First World War.[3] The law was repealed on December 13, 1920.[4]
Emphasis mine.
That’s cool, I’ll just bring all dozen ballots from my family to the local registrar office drop off. No USPS involved.
Thanks for the warning Trump!
Can you do that in other states? In Pennsylvania we can only return our own and, if you get designated by another person by filling out a form, and even then you can only be one person’s designated person.
I get that you can’t actually fill out their ballot (like you can’t do that with Power of Attorney.) but you are talking about physically delivering the envelope you can only do for yourself and one other designated person? So if someone is unable to drop off their ballot due to a disability, there can only be one designated person to drop it off for them and only them?
I went back and reread it, and it says there’s an exemption if you all live in the same household. So I think if you live with your parents you can be designated for both of them, but if they live separately from you, you could only do one.
Please be advised that you are only allowed to return your own ballot, unless you have a disability and a completed Authorized Designated Agent Form accompanies the returned ballot.
And then from the agent form:
Who can be a designated agent?
The person you designate as your agent is only allowed to serve as a designated agent for ONE voter, unless the additional voter(s) live in the same household as you (the voter named in this form
Last time I voted, they had signs all over the grass saying “One Person, One Ballot” and someone was guarding the box and checking envelopes.
I’m in Cali, so I don’t know with other states.
My local registrar just has a box out front and I’ve dropped off ballots there at 3am before. It’s locked, but it looks like a USPS envelope drop off box, but it’s the registrar’s. So just shove them in the slot. And then I get a text the following day or two saying it’s been collected and counted.
No one checks anything. I’ve even gone one time where it was drive-through style and I just rolled my window down and gave them to one of the dozen or so poll workers.
As long as the envelope is sealed and signed properly by the voter, I don’t see a reason it’d be contested. And when it all gets counted if there’s a discrepancy then it’ll get flagged and that individual who signed it will be contacted.
Been doing the drop offs for years now, for all elections. Never had a problem.
This is a smart move for anybody that can get to them. Take no chances.
Be ready to walk past ICE on your way there…
At 3am? 12pm? 7pm? 8am? They’re going to be there 24/7?
Because I got all of the time in the world
I mean… I wish you the best, but… if they go so far as to deploy their paramilitary to polling locations, it’s not that crazy to think they could post up 24/7, especially in targeted areas like swing districts and blue cities.
Best to brace yourself to walk past them nonchalantly and hope they don’t approach you on your way to the dropbox. If you’re carrying multiple ballots then they might ask questions, though… And we all know that when it comes to ICE there’s a thin line between “asking questions” and “publicly executing”…
But if you’re already doing that then you might as well offer to carry ballots for any of your friends who happen to be hispanic and visibly queer, cause they’ll likely have more trouble getting past ICE.
And also, you may want to double-check the legality of carrying someone else’s ballot in your state, as I am not a lawyer…
Not trying to be a naysayer, I just want to make sure we’re all mentally prepared…
Nah I totally get where you’re coming from and agree that shit can happen, I just don’t care anymore I guess? I’m gonna vote how I always do and if shit happens then shit happens
As though there will be a midterm election.
States run voting it’s in the constitution https://constitution.findlaw.com/article1/annotation18.html
The Trump Circus doesn’t know that and even if they did they wouldn’t care
