It hasn’t disappeared. It’s still exists, it’s just that if you get it modern antibiotics can kill it.
You still have a 5-15% chance of dying with modern antibiotics.
It’s the improvement in sanitary practices that ultimately made it a much lesser issue.
And the fact that everyone else left alive had some form of immunity or resistance.
And the virus evolved to be less deadly and people evolved to have better immune responses to it.
The “Spanish Flu” still exists, and is all around us. Endemic to humanity. Meaning the H1N1-subtype of the influenza virus. Which killed 50-100 million people in 1918-1920. (Nowadays it’s called the seasonal flu)
I’d like to find an image of anti-antivaxxers, from around that time. They had some good burns against the silly antivaxxers and I just can’t remember what they were.
Those are two different things. The bubonic plague is a bacterial infection.
Oh yeah, I should’ve said “the disease” but I was already talking about flu epidemics in my head.
Good note, thanks, but for other people, as I understand the difference very well and would never suggest antibiotics as a treatment to virus-borne disease. And the evolution of bacteria is very different from viruses. Hell, we haven’t even decided if viruses are technically living or not. Anyway, good point
It find not cause imaginary autism though.
So sick of seeing confidently incorrect people opining, using historical examples, when they have never before cracked open a history book and have no idea of the context.
Henry Ford believed the Elders of Zion, and he was a cultural icon in business, which I assume meant he was top tier intelligent at the time.
So sick of seeing confidently incorrect people opining, using historical examples, when they have never before cracked open a history book and have no idea of the context.
This has always been the case.
The issue is Twitter boosts them over less engaging experts. The new problem is the medium. Twitter is not an fair forum, and these dumb takes trend deliberately.
Legitimately, what else would they use? Hardly anyone uses Mastodon - I don’t for sure, but from what I hear, the devs continually ignore the needs that people keep asking about. Which is why so many turned to Bluesky - it works.
To discuss the Threadiverse that I am much more familiar with, literally 100% of the people that I’ve told about “Lemmy” have outright chided me for having told them about it. (1) If you Google’d that term (not DuckDuckGo, I’m talking mainstream normies here) a year ago, it would take you to lemmy.ml; (2) that instance by default does not show All, but rather Local; (3) lemmy.ml - along with lemmygrad.ml and hexbear.net - routinely calls for the murder of everyone participating in a capitalist, Western society (Edit: not just billionaires, or even millionaires, but anyone who participates). And showing Local rather than All does not dilute that flood as much as you see your view of the Threadiverse content from lemmy.world. (4) no major Lemmy instances defederate from lemmy.ml (quokk.au did iirc, before it switched all the way over to PieFed).
There are some MAJOR structural issues with the Fediverse that need to be solved first, before mainstream normies - who remember are primarily centrist (aka liberal to even right-wing by the standards here) - will feel comfortable here. Not celebrating and calling for their literal irl murder might be a start. (Note that while YOU might have such communities and user accounts blocked, a guest account, especially browsing lemmy.ml, cannot and would not know how to deal with such - e.g. a new account on most instances could respond to comments in Chapotraphouse@hexbear.net while browsing All and have no idea what they are walking into… then noping out and worst of all, telling everyone that will listen how extremist we are here)
We are a Nazi bar here, except instead of Nazis it’s tankies. Also, purity beatings will continue until morale improves. Mainstream people do not feel welcomed here. And most people seem unable to even say so much as they should be? Would you want more “right-wing” people here? (I actually mean centrists, but especially in the USA where so many are located, that is more where they would lean, right?)
People also are moving to blue sky (bsky.app) which is the twitter-like thing made by the guy who made Twitter
Sadly, yeah. Eventually it will enshittify as well, but in the meantime people seem to enjoy it.
The mainstream will use anything closed source before the fediverse
The black plague is common in Madagascar for example, in villages which can’t be reqxhes without a helicopter and people there have no money for antibiotics. So doctors without borders are doing there best, but it’s still there (among other places). The vaccine for spreading misinformation is education, but sadly people prefer to get their knowledge from tiktok while letting AI do their school work, if they go to school at all.
Your typing of “accessed” went badly enough that I wonder if you also type in another language
Lately my autocorrect is fucking up big time after years of good service.
English isn’t my main language, but that garbled piece of shit word which should have said “accessed” also doesn’t resemble any word in my language.
Also it didn’t disappear?
These people are just willfully ignorant and deeply faithful.
Also it hasn’t disappeared. You can friggin catch it right now if you want
Gotta catch m all
At first I attributed this to dumbfuckery but lately I’m again seeing more of these opinions but now from people who see it as an opportunity
Yeah but what has it done for you lately
It also killed between 10% and 100% (average of a 3rd or so) of populated areas every 10 years for about 600 years. So ~3x longer than the US has been around.
But I assume that nobody at the time had autism, because they were not vaccinated. Worth it!/s
That’s because Tylenol didn’t exist yet
It’s Europe’s fault for being so weak. Better tell me how many Americans have died because of it!
I prefer people who survive the plague 🤷♂️
The Black Death (bubonic plague) that devastated Europe and Asia in the 14th century did not occur on the American continent.
However, a later, separate outbreak of the bubonic plague was introduced to the Americas around 1900, resulting in the following recorded deaths:
United States (1900-1904): The first major outbreak in San Francisco killed at least 119 to 172 people.
United States (1900–2015): A total of 1,036 human plague cases were reported in the U.S. during this period.
United States (1900-1942): Before antibiotics, there were 511 cases, of which 336 were fatal (66% mortality rate).
United States (Recent): In recent decades, an average of seven human plague cases are reported in the U.S. each year. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention | CDC (.gov)
Key Facts on Plague in the Americas: Origin: The plague arrived in the US on rat-infested steamships from Asia, primarily affecting West Coast port cities.
Endemic Status: The disease established itself among wild rodents in the Western US (especially New Mexico, Arizona, California, and Colorado).
Location: While rare, modern plague cases in the Americas occur primarily in the United States and Peru. Smithsonian Magazine
I’ve got to appreciate a serious fact check under my half-assed joke. Thank you, that was genuinely interesting.
I worked at a zoo for a bit and whenever we went in the prairie dogs enclosure we had to wear lowkey hazmat and fully sanitize before & after bc they can carry it
JD Vance cheering on the Bubonic Plague.
Does anyone have any recommendations on books about the black plague?
“One death is a tragedy. A million deaths is a statistic.”
These people would care more if they personally get hurt.
That why a rhetorical tool that personalizes death may work.
Something like “okay, your mother is now dead. And now your wife, and auntie and even your old highschool girlfriend. You watch them all die, bewildered and distraught, but you do nothing until your son dies in front of you, choking on a resporator, pleading in his eyes until the very end.”
“You can stop the rest of your family dying right now right now, right way. you can even save your own life, in a way that will also save other peoples mothers, wifes, and sons. Will you?”
Let me tell you about my mother.
Wrll, you aint gonna win them all, but sokething like the above tends to work well when people talk about how “some people” should die or go somewhere else. Bringing it back from “somebody” to “you and everyone you know” tends to shock that talk out of them.
Oh I’m just referencing blade runner.
Your story really reminds me of the Voight-Kampff test.
Its effectivly an empathy test just like voight-kampff, so I see where you’re coming from.
Capillary dilation of the so-called blush response? Fluctuation of the pupil. Involuntary dilation of the iris…
depending on the person one death could also be a party
Oh I am partying once Trump keels over. Absolutely no shame admitting that.
Doesn’t have to be one, I’ve made a list
where it kept coming back periodically for 500 years
