• Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca
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    The elite want people to have children because people with children have something they could lose that isn’t theirs to sacrifice. It makes them easier to control.

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      Hmm… I think it’s for a different reason.

      Birthrates are down because (amongst other things) it’s financially impossible to have a family in this time.

      However, as much as these tech billionaires invest into AI, they still need grunt workers to keep society running. So eventually these billionaires will lose value because society doesn’t have workers.

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        Billionaires can’t look 20 years into the future when the babies would grow up to be workers. If they could, they’d see that destroying the environment is going to cost way more in the future than it would to just fuck it less now.

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      I would think wage slaves, but what does a guy who wants to automate everyone out of a job need wage slaves for?

      Comfort slaves. You want to have food and a place to live? Billionaires get to have whatever and do whatever they want and you never complain. What other future could they possibly be gearing towards?

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        something like a cross of bladerunner and escape from new york… edit: and minority report

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    When time is the only true commodity, but the ruling class decides that they need more decimal points In their registers…

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    The irony of American white nationalism will always be that that despite being a white American by birth and genetics, even as I fight that privilege, I’ll still be a “better” white American than the world’s richest immigrant can ever be. You picked the wrong allies, you picked the wrong fight, and your ancestors (exploiters as they were) picked the wrong continent. You’ll never be “good” enough. And while I despise that standard, your failure to figure that out and your personal collapse is a small delight.

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    honest question: why does the cartoonist show a black woman exposing her shoulders? she wont be allowed into catholic church dressed so slutty.

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      Catholic churches don’t prevent bare shouldered women entering.

      Also plenty of black people aren’t Catholic, in my country it’s rare for black people to be Catholic unless they’re Haitian or recently (past few generations) immigrated from Africa

    • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      …because it’s a common piece of clothing that many people wear…?

      why did you see a drawing of a woman with exposed shoulders and your first thought was “what a slut!”?

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        Well obviously not for that particular reason, but it doesn’t seem to be a deal breaker for the vast majority of church goers

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    Don’t let Elon musk tell you what to do with your genitals. Also anyone that cares about brith rate and however much there is of whatever race is weird.

    Humans will ultimately evolve into another species and concept of human races will become irrelevant.

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    I’m originally from Texas and whenever I’d go back (which hasn’t been for several years now) there would be tons of ‘pro-life’ billboards featuring happy, smiling white, blonde, blue-eyed babies

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    When a dude who TRIED to get into pedo-island is telling you he needs more kids, perhaps you should trust your gut and gtfo.

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        I don’t think shame and embarrassment are the same thing. Embarrassment often requires humility, but when people are ashamed, they dodge accountability.

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        As a man not taking care of your multiple kids is embarrassing and most guys can’t mentally or financially afford to take care of multiple kids. Paying child support instead of providing for your kid day to day is embarrassing. Multiple child support payments can bankrupt you, they’ll dock your wages. Not paying child support is a felony in some States. Of course this is only the rule for us poors.

        Nailing multiple hoes with no protection is a gamble on getting a kid or an STD. It’s incredibly stupid. This is just how guys in my generation tend to think. Edit: Not that Elon “nailed” anybody, his kids are all from IVF allegedly, which is even more embarrassing than just having multiple kids from different women.

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          Most of them are in vitro be ause apparently a botched penis enlargement made it not work.

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          I dont think its embarrassing, but practical if you want to spread your DNA. He’s had children from actual relationships so it’s not like he can’t, and he can afford to pay for all of them.

          Egotistical sure. Having so many kids you cant be a real father to them and using money to replace that, pretty brutal. Im sure other things too, but I wouldn’t say embarrassing.

          Maybe if it had been the only way he can have kids.

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            I dont think its embarrassing, but practical if you want to spread your DNA.

            See, that whole mindset is part of the things that should be embarrassing.

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            I’m sorry nobody taught you how to be a man, it’s tough when that’s the reality, I can relate to that too. Hang in there.

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            If child rearing experts are universally not on board (🤞) with the way you’re executing this “practical” plan, it might be embarrassing to have all the resources but not the sense to choose a healthier-for-the-children path.

            Those without that sense probably also won’t be embarrassed, though. Embarrassed for him!

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              The mothers wanted a child, and unless they were going to adopt, were likely going to have IVF through a sperm donor anyway. It’s not like he’s trying to convince someone who doesn’t want a kid to have his kids. He convinced people who wanted to have kids to have his kid.

              So I don’t see how that impacts what a child rearing expert think, since a kid is going to be born to a single mother, or a mother who can’t have a kid naturally with their husband. Unless you’re saying women shouldn’t raise a child alone, via IVF or adoption, which I don’t think you’re trying to say.

              Edit: And in this case, the kid is set for life, albeit with a terrible father (who might have been absent anyway)

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      I would not accept shame of a type I wouldn’t put on someone else. Would I shame a woman for having kids with multiple guys? Of course not, you’d have to be a megachode to do that. So why would we tolerate people shaming anyone for that practice? Why should a person’s gender determine whether they’re allowed multiple partners in their life? We’re not even talking about non-monogamy here; plenty of people have kid(s) with one partner and then have more with another after leaving the first. I’ve got family members and friends who’ve done that. You think how much we shame them should be determined by their gender? Only women should be permitted?

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        I think shaming the rich is always on the table for any and all reasons, personally. Anything to get to them.

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          What you say isn’t in a vacuum. If you shame a rich person for a reason, you’re implicitly shaming many other people who match your insult

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        I’d shame a woman for being a massive creep about the whole thing, and layering transphobia on top of that.

      • Bobby@leminal.spacedeleted by creator
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        Although a woman having kids with multiple guys would probably negatively impact her, this choice doesn’t have the same consequences for her in society. An equivalent “bad choice” for a woman would be marrying an older man at a young age, never getting an education, never getting a job, having multiple kids with him, and then allowing him to be The Head of the Household without any input from her. Long term, that would put her in a similarly disadvantaged social position as a man with multiple baby mommas, if she were an average person.

        I didn’t say that people who have kids out of wedlock or who get married before adulthood deserve to be kicked out of society and neither do people who pick their nose in public or who steal from the collection plate at church. I said it’s embarrassing and probably shouldn’t be encouraged.

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    I don’t really think they want that at all. I think it’s just another culture war wedge to fuck women with. Then people can claim it’s everything but the class war this clearly is.

    Why would they want more kids around? To kill them or destroy them with robots would be the only answer. Nothing in the books they read/write actually indicate they want anyone to have more kids.

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      Replaceable wage slaves. They can bring every ounce of productivity out of one human, toss them out and grab another.