• Katrisia@lemmy.today
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    7 days ago

    Well, fasting is not for everyone. Female biology often benefits from regular eating (small quantities), for example. People with gastritis, with PMOS, diabetes, etc. may find fasting hard. Intuitive eating is interesting, but people may have a problem confusing ‘intuition’ with ‘body signals’ that are not great; for example, if I were to intuitively eat while on ADHD medication, I’d eat nothing, and the opposite for bad days, I’d feel that my body is ‘naturally’ asking me for extra food.

    So, while I agree that we should be brave to change the three meals a day if it isn’t for us, I’d recommend getting enough information and medical advice before changing anything.

    “Stop eating for pleasure” is BS, too. We shouldn’t overindulge, but we need to find food appealing in order to stick with our personalized diet. These messages about food and eating being ‘a problem’ are not good for people in risk of developing an eating disorder…

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        On the contrary, I am supposing that intersex and other non-binary, divergent sexual individuals who, one way or the other, depend on the estrogens and such hormones will find that their bodies (their brains) are expecting the AFAB/female cycles and details, and then they’ll live the same experience of high cortisol while fasting, the hormonal changes, etc. That’s why I prefer to call it a “female biology” and not “women’s” because there’s probably in here someone who has that body, that sex, but not that gender identity. Also, I’m not a doctor so I don’t know for sure about intersex and trans bodies, but I doubt science knows a lot more, TBH. We’ll have to wait for science to research bodies inclusively.

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        I’m going outside today. I’ll try to answer later, but in case I forget for a few days, google something like: “Is fasting good for women?” or “Fasting and female hormones”, etc. Apparently, fasting can help lose weight, yes, but it can trigger some spikes in cortisol and hormonal changes. I guess because the AFAB bodies are always looking out for “the potential baby” and fasts may trigger some: “beware, you need to be strong for the future baby”. Same reason for stronger fat storage (for “the baby”), I think. But I’m not a doctor and I might be ill-informed (badly informed?).

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    We? 3 meals a day is warranted for manual labor-heavy jobs (like farmer, construction). I, in IT&tech, eat breakfast, maybe a snack if it’s long inbetween and cook something at evening.

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    Do what you need for your body to function properly. If that’s the 3 meals a day deal then fine. If you eat small items throughout the day to maintain energy levels for health reasons or because that’s how your body operates best is fine as well. We are seriously hitched up on this stupid concept of “normality” in society.

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      My worker eats 4 to 5 small meals over the course of a 12hr work day. One of these is second breakfast which he sings as he brings it to the microwave.

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    I’ve found that I’m actually less hungry throughout the day, if I skip breakfast. So, even when I then have lunch, I’m satiated much quicker.

    My working theory is that my stomach shrinks when empty, in particular throughout the night. So, if I don’t shove down breakfast in the morning:

    • My stomach can shrink even smaller until lunch.
    • There is less empty space in the non-stretched stomach, so less hunger.
    • When I do eat lunch, the smaller stomach fills up quicker, meaning I shove down less food for lunch, too, and therefore my stomach doesn’t get particularly stretched until dinner either.
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      8 days ago

      i think that actually it’s not so much about physiological changes happening to your body when you don’t eat; it’s more about signaling

      your body is put into this “efficiency” mode when you skip breakfast. it means, you should get up and gather for food, instead of having it already provided. so your body uses food more efficiently.

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        I’m always surprised when people say they eat breakfast before work. How do they have time for that? I usually have something around 10 or 11, then an apple or cheese stick or cookie or whatever i can find when i get home around 5, then dinner around 7 or 8. I guess that counts as 3.

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          Just get up early enough? You can eat breakfast during a train or bus ride if you choose food suitable for that…

          In fact I generally eat breakfast only on workdays, not usually weekends, because I don’t need any energy in the morning yet when I’m not working.

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          I wake up early enough to make time. Usually up around 6, do some chores, eat some breakfast, get ready for work, and do the hour drive to work.

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          I eat breakfast, same thing, every day, for 20 years.

          It’s no harder than anything else, just get up early enough to do it.

          Takes 30 minutes from start to cleaning my plates.

          I also eat something like 7 times a day. More frequent, smaller meals are generally better for most people from a glucose stability perspective. Of course everyone is different, and only you know for sure what timing works for you.

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            Apparently a lot of people don’t eat breakfast when they first wake up. I don’t, because my body isn’t hungry when I first wake up; it takes an hour or two before I can actually feel like I’m ready to eat something. And I don’t like forcing myself to eat when I’m not hungry because I just feel like shit.

            Also I’ve been working on eating slower so I’m not just wolfing everything down and taking massive bites. It can take me upwards of 30 minutes to eat a bowl of cereal.

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              Same. When my husband is home he makes me a coffee in the morning. Otherwise i just have a water. Nothing sounds good until I’ve been up for a couple of hours.

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              Well if only eating when you’re hungry isn’t working for you, I recommend experimenting with specific times to eat a specific amount. That way you can find what does work for you.

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          8 days ago

          How do they have time for that?

          I get up at 5:45, bathroom, get dressed until about 6:15, eat breakfast (sandwich and coffee) until 6:40, commute 20 minutes, start work at 7.

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          8 days ago

          grab a banana on your way out, it doesn’t take time as you can eat it in the public transport, is better than not eating anything at all. oh and also a portable coffee makes the day.

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          Before work, my meals consist of ready to eat options that don’t require preparation. Including eating and dicking around on the computer, I am usually finished within ten minutes.

          Unless you’re walking up, immediately getting dressed, then going to work/school, you should have time for something like that.

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    most people in the states actually think they’re going to die immediately if they skip a meal, let alone two.

    the “never don’t eat, for any reason, ever–or you will DIE” mindset is one of the things we’re most force-fed from birth onwards.

    it’s becase if you skip a meal, that’s money that wasn’t spent. if everyone skipped a meal, that’s a lot of money that wasn’t spent. we can’t have that in capitalism. therefore, eat abundantly and often. it doesn’t matter what, as long as it’s something you bought

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      I’ve found the opposite. I find that a lot of the traditions regarding food don’t stem from capitalism, but from vestiges of poverty and food insecurity no matter the economic system that poverty came from.

      Grandma is a lot more likely to use food as a way to communicate love if she went through food insecurity as a child.

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        true, grandma would be absolutely horrified to hear anyone ate just one meal yesterday, on purpose, and plans to do it every day this week. it’s almost blasphemy

        but also the corporations selling everyone quick easy cheap (and disgustingly unhealthy) food-like substances at the drive thru and breakfast aisle certainly don’t want anyone skipping any meals either. in fact they want you to be eating all day every day

        the difference is grandma doesn’t want anyone to feel like they felt in the depression, not knowing when they’ll eat again, and corporations just want your money

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          8 days ago

          Capitalism will sell what people buy. Capitalism will sell high calorie food. Capitalism will also still weight loss systems and drugs.

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          It just seems unnecessary to bring it up in every barely-related thread. We’re all aware of serious problems but not every discussion has to be taken over by the doomer mindset. I subscribe to the fun little communities to get a break from the serious shit, we don’t all need to be talking about the bad stuff all the time!

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    Shit, I just eat when I’m hungry, which is usually just once a day sometime in the evening. Occasionally I’ll also eat midday around lunchtime too, but not often. To hell with that 3 meals a day shit though, I think my belly would explode if I ate that much.

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      yeah same. usually my midday food is just a liter of milk. which btw has 500 kcal = 2000 kJ

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      7 days ago

      From what I’ve read you’re probably thinking of the “breakfast is the most important meal of the day” slogan

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    IT’S STARTED. THE POWERS THAT BE ARE PREPARING THEIR “JUST DON’T EAT, CITIZEN” PROPAGANDA BEFORE THE COLLAPSE OF THE GLOBAL SUPPLY CHAIN.