• smeenz@lemmy.nz
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      Ethnic refers to a group of people who share a common cultural background, national origin, language, religion, or ancestry.

      What do you mean by that word ?

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        You must have gotten the gist of what I was typing. If not, I’ll leave it to you to interpret it any way you like. Thanks.

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        Racist people in the US use the word, in this context, to mean brown people.

        I believe the comment was using it ironically

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          Ah, thanks. I’m not American and had not seen the word used as euphemism like that, so it was a very puzzling comment without that context.

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    Whatever.

    Any Americans who aren’t planning to take direct action at this point deserve whatever they get. Keep doing whatever you’re doing, at thus point you’re just a cautionary tale for the rest of us, you absolute goddamn self-absorbed cowards.

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      Where are you from? Because for someone who lives somewhere else you complain exclusively about America. Like only that. All of your posts are angry about about what’s happening here. Maybe YOU Should be less of a coward and quit fighting wars from the safety of your arm chair. You melancholy malcontent.

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        Say more. Really. It’s illustrative. Nobody understands why Americans are allowing this to happen- seeing you get shitty and defensive (and all following the same tired script for that matter) helps everyone see the problem more clearly.

        Don’t hold back, now. Really whine and tell us how you’re doing your best and shouldn’t be held responsible because after all, you’re one of the “good ones.”

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          That’s the same response you give anytime anyone challenges you. You aren’t smarter than the whole world. You’re a troll nothing more, and everyone sees it. A melancholy malcontent. If you’re going to troll at least be interesting. I can’t suffer a bore. That’s what you are, an angry bore. And you have my pity.

          I’m done with you. Feel free to fuck off to you’re next strain of meaningless complaints about people complaining meaninglessly.

          A true hero of the arm chair.

          I’ll give you your final reply before I block you. Just out of good form, but I won’t read it. I’ve read enough of you.

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          You know, instead of complaining, why not get your government to stage an intervention and hold it over our heads forever.

          No amount of me saying thst every J6er and cabinet member should be dragged into the street naked and shot on live TV will change the fact that noone listens when I say it or will follow commands i give

          You can’t will a fucking rebellion into being my dude. Its not that simple

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    The answer has always been no. Whoever’s asking the court for this is who we should be worried about.

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      Yeah! Let me do that! Don’t go to my job so I can riot - someone else takes it so they can eat and pay their bills while I scream into the void in public. Lose my job immediately. Lose my house, my car, my health insurance. Can’t eat. Nowhere to sleep or wash myself or my clothes if I still have any, no other jobs to be had for months and months, maybe ever. No energy to even riot anymore. Damn, sucks that I’m too fat and lazy to get the ball rolling on this impeccable plan!!

    • ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online
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      The propaganda and surveillance apparatus that has been worked on since 2000 has made that possible. The liberals have been really good at dismantling protest and criticism of the government and rendering it moot.

      Look up at the massive amount of bills being pushed to basically censor the entire internet.

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      That’ll convince them! Insult them! Be a literal piece of shit about it! That will definitely change things!

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        Just another terminally online ML ignoring material conditions and doing the woke scolding that libs love to do.

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          Bullshit. Your entire comment history is just hatred and insults toward Americans. Zero room for understanding. No real suggestion from how you talk about them that you’ve even tried. You don’t want to make change. You want a punching bag. You love that the US is coming apart at the seams. Nearly 5% of the global population and you just want them to burn as a society. 350 million people and you have it in your head that not a single one of them is even fighting. People protest every damn day but you’re upset because you want to see blood.

          You’re a sick person. Front row seats for the gladiator show, angry that we’re fighting missiles with words.

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            I honestly believe that most non-Americans are simply not capable of grasping just how large and populous this country is.

            They comment from a tiny island they’ve never left, like Britain and think it must be similar here. Not realizing that it’s a landmass the size of China with over 350,000,000 people. 50 different states with very different laws, broken into literally thousands of municipalities that also have their own laws…

            They have no fucking context or perspective.

  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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    arnt they already, and its not even likely they are instructed to listen the supreme court anyways. so its fair game if they get the same response.

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    I’m thinking we should start banning yahoo.com from this commag. All that site does is copy from another site and attribute it so that we can’t see what the actual publisher is from the domain. (You can see at the top here that the OG source is Slate.)

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      Not endorsing the interpretation at all, but the idea with the people in Gitmo is that they were “combatants” from a “war” and were therefore prisoners of war and subject to a different set of laws. The whole point of putting them in Gitmo was to avoid the legal complications of the domestic American justice system.

      Conversely, immigrants are, by definition, inside of the United States and therefore protected by American laws. At least that has been the case historically. The court is going to determine if that is in fact the case.

      And yeah, we all need to be worried about an interpretation that being in America somehow does not place a person under the justification of the American justice system and all the rights and responsibilities that entails.

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        And Republicans have already tried calling this a “war” on illegal immigration so that we can treat them as enemy combatants.

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          The difference that still matters (for now) is that the US justice system applies in the United States, regardless of citizenship, war, or anything else.

          Gitmo detainees were strategically never brought into the US. NSGB is a naval base that’s leased from Cuba and is explicitly not territorial ground of the US, so detainees there are not protected by US laws, but the adversarial relationship with Cuba also keeps the host country’s laws from applying.

          It’s pretty much the only place the US permanently controls where there are no civil protections at all for detainees.

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        And yeah, we all need to be worried about an interpretation that being in America somehow does not place a person under the justification of the American justice system and all the rights and responsibilities that entails.

        The Constitution references “under the jurisdiction of the United States” so if they do rule that these people aren’t entitled to Constitutional rights, I’m curious how that doesn’t also mean that these people are immune from US laws too. You can’t claim these people aren’t protected by our laws while also claiming that they’re subject to those same laws.

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          Historically “not under the jurisdiction of the United States” meant exactly what you think it meant. It meant that they were not subject to the laws of the US and was a status commonly called “diplomatic immunity”.

          I agree with your conclusion that people cannot be both immune from rights and subject to law, but sadly the courts have disagreed.

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          You can’t claim these people aren’t protected by our laws while also claiming that they’re subject to those same laws.

          They won’t claim it outloud but they already operate under this interpretation.

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          You can’t claim these people aren’t protected by our laws while also claiming that they’re subject to those same laws.

          Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

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    Ooooh nice, so they’re effectively going to decide if they get to actually run concentration camps in an official capacity. Delightful.

    Also, I don’t expect ICEatzgruppen to abide by the court order if it doesn’t go their way

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      Don’t worry court will write out an instruction manual worth of loopholes if they do rule against it

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      Everything the Nazis did was legal under German law. They were meticulous about renewing the Enabling Act multiple times.

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      Emil Bove is the person that floated the idea that they simply not abide by the courts. Seems important for later.

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    It’s OK! The CONSTITUTION is CLEAR that this is Illegal and the Robert’s Republican Supreme Court is KNOWN to UPHOLD the Constitution and NOT whoever gives them the BEST Vacation!