I can’t remove the video from showing.
Anyone got a link to buy the shirt?
https://zerevia.com/product/t-shirt/1838893-bombing-kids-is-not-self-defense here but might just be someone trying to capitalizes on the news story.
“She kept saying, like, ‘You could see how the shirt is offensive.’ I was like, ‘I can’t see how the shirt is offensive,’” Saadeh said. “She was like, ‘It’s 2026.’ I was like, ‘I know what year it is.’”
He added, " ‘Do you think kids shouldn’t be bombed, or kids should be bombed? Like, what are you offended by?’"
Based.
It’s 2026, basic logic and human decency is extremism.
I know what year it is
lol
Terrorism even.
Depends on the kids’ race, obviously. /s
That is not sarcasm, that is what the military’s pay billions to Palentir to make sure they have non caucasian targets.
She just doesn’t want to know about the kids being bombed. Should and Shouldn’t is irrelevant to her life. (How most American’s act towards “others.”)
Remember in that Wonder Woman 1984 when certain people got angry when it showed some well armed western equipped troops oppressing some poor people in a arid landscape and they claimed it was obviously about them and was thus antisemitism? Anything about arab children being attacked or bombed has to be hidden I guess or you’re the evil one.
certain people got angry when it showed some well armed western equipped troops oppressing some poor people in a arid landscape and they claimed it was obviously about them and was thus antisemitism?
That’s even weirder considering the actress is a zionist.
This isn’t how most Americans act towards others.
You either only visited a shit part of the US, or you’ve never been here.
I’m guessing your demographic or wealth makes you part of the in group. (As a Black Male American, I can say even in the most liberal places, if the community is predominantly white. You are treated differently.) I’m adopted and I’m very close with both sets of family. Whenever I go to my white extended family’s gatherings it’s nice, but different. They all are very liberal but cultural racism still pops up every time because they just don’t know. They simply don’t think about race in the same way.
hey all are very liberal but cultural racism still pops up every time because they just don’t know.
As a non-murican i’m curious about what is “cultural racism”.
For example: I was at my adoptive grandmother’s funeral a couple weeks back. The extended family knows of me or some I haven’t seen in 20 years. (I’m mid 30s) During the activities surrounding the funeral I was sudo ostracized from most conversations while simultaneously have several eyes on me the whole time. When ever I was given the spotlight you could see the amazement on some faces that I didn’t sound and speak like they expected. My great aunt even came to me and said she was impressed at how well spoken, kind, and educated I was during the whole week. Any one that knows anything about black history, that isn’t a compliment to a black person because what did she expect? (she automatically assumed I wouldn’t be those things.) The black people shown even on the most left mainstream news are not shown in the best framing.
I’d call that racism by ignorance (if there’s a difference) but i see what you mean now, thanks for clarifying.
Ignorance by choice is what I’d call it. You have to blind to reality to not know. (but I also know indoctrination and go against ones positive self story is tough.) I confront the ignorance as much as possible but it’s a impossible task that needs major social change to fix.
They simply don’t think about race in the same way.
Can you explain the ways?
The simplest way to explain it is, I have to aware of my skin color in everything I do. I know my actions don’t only reflect myself but every black person that came before and after. White individuals see themselves as individuals. If a white person does something wrong very few people say what’s wrong with the white community? When a black person does something wrong it’s common discourse to blame the black community as a whole. This is why collective punishment is easy to do by the US government. It’s been doing that to brown Americans since day one. Ice for example is an organization dedicated to collectively punishing brown people for demanding equal treatment. I guarantee very few white people get nervous when ICE is around because they are unlikely to be targeted by them. That’s a whole life worry they don’t have to worry about it. They simply don’t be too think about their race as much and rearly in a way that existential.
I agree with the sentiment wholeheartedly. Definitely not the wisest move to wear it to the airport unless you’re wanting to have issues, though.
Why? I’d love to hear the logic here. Are people who actually bring bombs into planes known to wear shirts with the word “bomb” on it in an unrelated context?
I guess we’re all just collectively this fucking stupid now, huh?
Can we not wear shirts with pictures of knives on them either? I’m certain it doesn’t hold true for apparel with gun imagery. Not in the US.
The logic is that there isn’t any real logic to it.
Nobody would be stupid enough to actually do that but that doesn’t matter. It makes you look “suspicious”, and that’s all the pretext that would be needed to detain, search, and harass you with enough plausible deniability to get away with it not being seen as abuse of power.
I guess we’re all just collectively this fucking stupid now, huh?
Pretty much.
You know it is not allowed to say the word bomb on a plane right? Pretty much same thing. It’s not logical, no use looking for logic in it really.
You know it is not allowed to say the word bomb on a plane right? Pretty much same thing
It’s not the same thing at all though.
You’re allowed to wear a T-shirt that says “fire!” on it in a crowded theater.
The logic is that the TSA is constantly looking for ways to appear effective. Wearing a shirt that involves the words hijack or bomb or something along those lines is more or less an invitation to get hassled by them.
Why? What specially is offensive?
there is a bakery in PA that has a pastry called a peanut butter bomb. It’s on their t-shirts. An employee wore one to the airport; yeah, he was detained, and questioned, and things got a bit tense. He’s pointing to the website, saying, “But it’s right there! It’s chocolate and peanut butter!” I think they eventually let him on the plane…
Ah yes, because terrorists will wear a shirt with bomb written on it if they have one, of course
No, but that doesn’t stop the TSA from acting like it.
Yeah i know, that was a critic to TSA
Yeah, it’s definitely got a no-no word on it.
My company “Bomb the Baby” bath bombs always has problems at security.
This is the problem with banning the words themselves.
I just watched Meet the Parents this weekend just for a nostalgia hit. That scene about him getting kicked off an airplane for saying “Bomb” cracked me up. He’s like “I said I DIDN’T have a bomb! Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb ba-babomb! What if I was a Bombardier?”
I’d be very interested to know the flight attendant’s name.
She could just be thinking that any mention of bombs is inappropriate on an airplane, and missing the reference to Israel entirely.
I hope something like this was the backup shirt:
Look, it’s statistically possible that the flight attendant is just a piece of s##t.
But, having been friends with one, I’m also open to the possibility that they just know they are going to be sealed in a flying can with a lot of nervous people and just want to go through a whole f###ng flight without someone getting triggered or panicking.
Leave Karen alone!
No
She saw the word “Bomb” and thought “Plane”, like those Halloween music playlists curators that include songs only because they happen to have a keyword in the title but have jack-(o-lantern)shit to do with the actual theme.
As said here though, can’t argue with my man’s sentiment, however I would expect nothing less from the airline/airport staff.
like those Halloween music playlists curators that include songs only because they happen to have a keyword in the title
This is my biggest, least consequential issue with the world. The Cranberries’ “Zombie” does not, and never will, belong on a Halloween playlist, unless the whole playlist is about how scary the English are
Economy so bad Reddit admins need a second job as a flight attendant
As someone who got perma-banned recently for recommending that Andrew Tate get transferred to a Brazilian prison and tenderized, this is fucking hilariously accurate.
I got yelled at by a flight attendant for wearing a shirt that said “I fucking love to cuddle” I ended up having to turn my shirt inside out so the plane could take off.
Gotta get that shirt printed with “I also love to fuck” on the inside. Cover all the bases.
I dont know what we’d all do if they hadnt been there to fix that situation. Thank you for your service, TSA agents and flight attendants. What a bunch of heroes.
/s
American airlines have super prudes
I’ll never forgive the UK for sending the puritans out here
Small handfuls of cunts that ruin it for everyone else, really.
You may not have freedom of speech anymore but at least you have freedom of war crimes!
Why would anyone from United Airlines find this offensive?
Did I miss something?
Only ass kissing for Israel, no compassion for their victims
It’s strictly the word bomb. I was subject to an extra search because I wore a t-shirt that had a grenade on it once.
Green Day?
You missed the fact that a lot of Americans are prudish, authoritarian followers, outright stupid, and/or cowed by their employer to the point that blindly enforce rules without critical thinking for fear of losing their job.
I don’t know which of the four possibilities it was in this case.
This seems exceptionally stupid when coupled with the article from just a few hours ago about Christian preachers spouting off on planes but the flight attendants “can’t do anything about it”.
Gotta love it.
Religion is cool if its white people Christianity.
I wish I was on one of those planes. I’m not about to be your captive audience.
What would you have done (that wouldn’t have gotten you in trouble)?
Right where a religious person would respond with, “hallelujah,” yell, “HAIL SATAN!”
Also, recite Matthew 5:6.
“Allahu Akbar” translates to “God is Greatest”
Often used as a mantra to remind you that no matter what happens on earth, God and their plan is beyond all human comprehension, so trust it.
(Or so my whiteass secondary school level religious education understanding goes)
They can’t arrest you for having an extremely loud panic attack.
They could probably find a reason to get you to stop booing, but what if you cheered and yelled, “FUCK YEAH! JESUS SHIT!” every time the preacher started to talk.
I like your idea!
Lol, I’ve watched a flight attendant force a kid to piss their pants because the seatbelt sign was on. Fuck all the off that they can’t tell someone to sit down and shut the fuck up.
A flight attendant’s primary job is safety of the crew and passengers.
Passenger comfort is secondary.
If for some reason they felt it was better to let them pee in their chair (like on approach to land, the most dangerous part of flying), then they probably had a reason, sadly.
The point they were making was that flight attendants will make people sit. So acting like they can’t is a lie we are being told by the airline, for some reason.
Let’s not pretend flight attendants are well equipped, trained, or competent enough to implement policy that addresses the nuances of free speech. They should not be allowed to censor people based on their tshirts. They arent hired or compensated with that in mind.
Some of them wouldn’t cut it as waitresses on land, and the rest are fucking angels and we ought to clone them. Very hit or miss profession.
The reason is that landings can be bumpy, and a kid falling head-first into a metal corner inside the toilet box is worse than them pissing their pants and the seat they are safely belted into.
The flight attendant knew what they were doing.
freedom of speech? anyone? have americans forgotten their constitutional rights already?
We cant talk about that unless we can certify that both you and I are in “free speech zones”.
That doesn’t apply to private companies. No one is saying he can’t wear that shirt in public
Gonna go on a bit of a tangent.
While technically correct, this is one or the many hypocrisies of the United States. The ability to silence others is a grotesque one. And while the government on paper is prohibited from exercising such a power, that power is still abundant in the form of private companies that weild power equal to nation states. If the United States truly valued freedom of speech, the same would apply to private companies.
I’m offended by the fact that they were offended by that shirt.
Even if it is offensive to you, having such a broad non-specific policy about denying service for “offensive” clothing is ridiculous.
Say I, a lefty, am a flight attendent. Can I deny entry to anyone wearing a MAGA hat, an anti-trans (“try to milk a bull”) t-shirt, a vaguely threatening pro-gun (“come and take it”) shirt, a fur jacket, etc? I genuinely find such things offensive. So I can kick those people out? No? Tell me what is different about that. What about someone wearing a shirt that says “Aborting kids is not healthcare”? I can’t think of a more direct and likely parallel than that. Is that too offensive to board a plane? Explain to me why not. Explain it slowly and think about your words as you do.
His shirt didn’t even specify an event, any parties to the event, or any sort of threat. It is not explicitly about any specific person or party. It is about children in general and those who would bomb them and call that warfare. It was just stating a moral stance, and a pretty low bar one at that, one that most people would agree on without any other context projected on it. Her offense was almost certainly due to a projection of meaning that she put upon it, not even the shirt itself. A meaning that she assumed was true for no reason but her own and that she found offensive due to her personal politics around the events she connected it to. How can you enforce a policy broad enough to allow someone to project a specific interpretation on a non-specific phrase and consider that projected meaning offensive, thereby barring them from the plane.
If I wear a shirt that says “he did nothing wrong” with no further context, do you get to decide who “he” is and bar me from you plane because maybe I mean someone who you think did something wrong and you arw offended by the alternatove view? What if I mean a fictional character like Thanos? What if I mean someone whom you agree did nothing wrong? What if it is just a shirt I got from a thrift store and it has no known meaning to me at all? You see why that is stupid as fuck?
At work the other day, had someone very upset about someone in a fur suit that was a customer. Like they seemed to expect that I would kick them out because of the costume…
Back in the 90s… friends and I went to a restaurant with a salad bar that no longer exists, in full goth wear. Another customer there loudly complained to staff that we should be kicked out because of what we were wearing (no nudity. no graphics or words, just lots of black, eyeliner and big boots) the whole time. He arrived shortly after us and, while we could hear him repeatedly saying things, he never directly spoke to us. Weirdo.
Staff was very polite to us, and we to them, other dude was the only one freaking out.
I’m always super impressed at the amount of work that goes into goth outfits. More generally there are not many “tribe” appearances that don’t require effort or sacrifice of some sort.
A fur suit. Like … OwO?
I’m sure you work somewhere where the public is allowed. Maybe a conventional center or something? But I was picturing cubicles, fluorescent lighting, rolling chairs, computers, and a man in a full panther costume who goes by Space Paws
That’s just IT, they’re chill. Don’t know how they do half the tech wizardry they do, let alone in those bigass paws.
Legit, that’s my plan if i ever get forced to return to office for work.
Straight up fur suit every day. That’s not even my thing. No idea where i’d get one or what they cost. I just figure, if they want to fuck with my day, they’re going to get it right back with interest.
Space Paws TPS reports are spotless. One might say they are purfect.
Israel is immune to criticism. It’s a very clear and simple rule, I don’t know why us lefty scum have such a problem with it.
/s
And they instantly knew who is the bomber and which kids they do bombing? None thought it could be not niche movie, game or meme quote… nah, they knew it is about very specific bombers against very specific kids and very specific not-a-self defense.
Alternative to CBS.
