I still love my Pixel 6 and I am thinking of grabbing a used Pixel 8 to run GrapheneOS.

I am not one to chase the latest benchmarks. Any phone made in the past five years or so is perfectly capable once you take the bloat out.

Edit: I found a great deal on a Pixel 10 and have ordered it.

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    Still rocking my Pixel 4 and it still works perfectly and I have no intention of replacing it. I love that it’s a compact size in an age where I’m expected to put laptop-sized phones in my pocket. Really not looking forward to shoving a zip code in my pants if there aren’t any compact size phones being sold when the time comes.

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      GO team already announced a partnership with Motorola earlier this year, idk if it’s more of a collaboration to bring GrapheneOS security to Motorola devices or what. Excited to see how that turns out

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        Oh I forgot about that. Yeah, that’s promising.

        I would bet the GrapheneOS devs see the writing on the wall with Google.

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    the thing about pixels is that putting lineage/graphene/whatever on them basically turns it into a completely different phone, all the complaints about AI and whatnot largely dissapear and they become what i’d call about the best experience you can have on a smartphone. Easy to install lineage (dunno about others, presume it’s equally easy), just works, no bullshit.

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      Jep. Just that.

      I recently had a good laugh when my best friend asked me if I didn’t want to charge my Pixel 6a (3+ years old now) with around 25% Batterie and I just replied “why? That’s still good for over a day”.

      The look on his face.

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          Neither of Barclay’s two apps work for me. Luckily I only have a credit card with them I opened for credit transfer, because they’ve gone all in on being app first with missing functionality on the website.

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      GrapheneOS is literally the easiest OS install ive ever done. Easy step by step guide, and directly from the browser.

      I havent used lineage, but i remember putting CyanogenMod on my galaxy S3 was quite the hassle. Whats the process like for lineage?

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    I had the original Pixel, and now the 5, not sure if I will get one next time but this one is still good.

    It’s kind of like my car - I have a 6 speed 2014 Honda, it does everything I want & nothing I don’t want. Newer ones are better in some ways, but not in ways I want.

    I don’t want a fancier phone or car, I want a more reliable one that does the things I want it to do. Not stuffed with “features”.

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      I drive the current BMW X1 (company car) and I miss my 2011 Mitsubishi Colt more often than I want to admit.

      Yes the X1 is the better overall car but all the CaaS bullshit ruins it for me. More software bugs than miles driven… More beeps, scrrens and popups than possibly healthy; a constant distraction.

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      Used Pixels with GOS have been great. Also, manual transmission Subaru - last of the dinosaurs I call it. They don’t make them anymore.

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      Haha, same boat. Pixel 8 and a 2012 manual Kia Soul. I’m going to drive that thing until it can no longer be driven.

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        There are dozens of us!

        Yeah only one of my kids learned to drive the manual but I love it. Lately I take an electric bike everywhere so hopefully the car lasts. The only one I’d trade it for is the Civic SI but those are $$$ and as long as my car will go I will keep it - they can last, especially the stick shift ones.

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    i loved my nexus 4 T_T

    also just got a pixel SPECIFICALLY to get graphene and the only thing i hate about graphene is i can’t also put it on my galaxy tab because i’d love for my tablet to have it too

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    The problem with older Pixels is that Graphene will stop supporting them.

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    I got a Pixel 8a more than a year ago to use GrapheneOS. It’s performance is somewhat similar to my Poco X4 GT but it runs a little bit hotter specially when running a private space. Last month it died immediately while I was using it. The phone immediately turned off without any warning. The problem was found to be a hardware one and that some component (i guess it was a transistor) was shorting in the board. Luckily there was a shop near me that was able to repair it.

    If it weren’t for GOS and maybe for its camera, I would not use and recommend pixels with its very mediocre performance and possible hardware problems.

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      I have a pixel 6a with a burned out usb c port. I would have to replace the whole board to get it working again. A shame really.

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    It’s probably because I had four pixels and three of them died early due to hardware problems. The other one was stolen but I had been wanting to replace it due to poor performance.

    I really thought I liked them, but never again.

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    I recently bought a Pixel 9a specifically to put GrapheneOS on it, and so far it’s been good. Especially the battery runtime was a pleasant surprise, I can get two days of moderate use out of it before having to plug it in again. The only thing that is significantly worse than my previous chinese crap spyphone from 2019 is the camera. I’m not sure if the stock camera app in Graphene is bad or if it’s the hardware, but the image quality is really poor.

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      Once Pixels get LOFIC sensors, that shouldn’t be such an issue.

      It’s complicated, but basically modern camera apps take multiple frames at different exposures and stack them with “AI.” Basic FOSS camera apps don’t do this because it’s complex and hardware-specific.

      But LOFIC camera sensors will remove the need to do this.

      Right now only Xiaomi/Hisense flagships and the Leica phone have them, but I think they’re coming everywhere. So a standard camera app (like the GrapheneOS one) could take a regular, uncomplicated exposure and still get a decent shot.

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      Graphene camera is ass. There is an fdroid app for the pixel camera with google shit removed.

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        That’s because there’s a lot of proprietary Google software that makes the photos look good which is not present in graphene.

        It’s like on Sony Xperia phones when you unlock the bootloader. All the confidential software that makes photos look good is locked away and encrypted until you relock it again

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          Absolutely. Surprised there is not a foss image processing pipeline already. They hit such niche spaces and this is such a barrier for mass adoption.

          Tbh payment is sorted with curve. An image processing pipeline and some form of android auto implementation without google would make it a full replacement.

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      You can download other camera apps and see if they do a better job. For example the stock pixel camera app can be downloaded from the play store.

      PS. I’ve heard people getting crazy battery life with https://codeberg.org/s1m/savertuner and its expanded battery saver settings

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    Pixels are not and have never been about speed or power. They’ve always been about security, for which they’re still the best. Also the only hardware supported by GOS (for the same reason) which is really the biggest reason to buy them, in my opinion. But I used them even before that for cleanliness and software features.

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      the #1 reason it’s what i’ve been using is just that they don’t have any locked down nonsense compared to other brands, unlocking the bootloader and flashing another OS is absolutely trivial and stuff just works.

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        Pixel 9 running GOS. My bank’s app (Lloyds) won’t work, and never has for me. Additionally, I have a store card, and credit card app, both of which are offered by NewDay, neither of which work on my phone. The official UK government ID app won’t work with it either.

        But honestly, I’ll take that inconvenience over letting Google have free reign over my phone.

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          I wish I had your willingness to deal with these problems.

          I’m tired. I just want to go on with my life without all those troubles. When I was younger, I was spending days trying to make everything work on my Cyanogenmod… and before that, I was already tinkering with Linux.

          But I’m tired. I wish companies weren’t pieces of shit and they just let us use an open system. :(

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        I also use GrapheneOS on a Pixel 8 here. My banking apps don’t work. They used to work just fine, but they decided to push updates making the apps ununsable on non-Google certified OSes.

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        Mine works. The app always cries about lack of play services, but the notification has an ignore-button and it hasnt created problems yet

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        you can get around a lot of detection with stuff like microg/kernelsu and other layers of arcane bullshit technomagic

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        Consors bank app works, but I prefer hardware TAN generators and a desktop browser.

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        GrapheneOS has a community maintained compatibility list. Mine was on the list and it works well, and its updated quickly if something breaks or manages to work.

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        my bank app refuses to run if the installation source is not Google Play Services. I make a private space with GPS for the app and that solves my issue.

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    I began my Pixel journey with the 4 XL with CalyxOS, before switching to GrapheneOS. I had to stop using the phone because of the well-known bloated battery issue.

    After a short stint with a OnePlus 6T and DivestOS, which was brief due to the phone’s processor failing, I returned to the Pixel line with the 6 Pro with GrapheneOS. I had to stop using the 6 Pro because of the Tensor modem failing to get signal or connect to cell towers where I know I would’ve gotten reception otherwise. Also, the phone would overheat occasionally.

    My current Pixel phone is the 8 Pro with GrapheneOS, and so far it’s been the best one I’ve had, though I have noticed that other phones, like recent Samsung Galaxies and iPhones have better picture quality than the 8 Pro depending on the environment.

    With GrapheneOS announcing their partnership with Motorola, I’m hoping to switch to a Moto phone in the future, ideally one with a better camera and processor than the Pixel line. Google absolutely sucks with hardware, with each Pixel having some egregious hardware issue that makes the phone nearly unusable in some cases.

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    I had a few phones before my first pixel and always struggled to run apps - there wasn’t much space in those days, or much in the way of processor or memory.

    I think my first Pixel was in the 2 era. I remember my wife or I had a 3 - and I think it was a 3a at that, but I don’t care THAT much to remember too precisely.

    I know after that I had a 4a, then a 6a, just because that’s when I needed to replace phones because the battery was starting to get annoying, or in the case of the 6a, the charge port was blocked and it didn’t have wireless charging, and financing though Fi was a better deal than trying to fix the phone.

    I’ve had an 8a for over a year so far.

    All of the Pixels have been good for me. I consider battery to be a normal thing - I preferred the old days with removable batteries, but this is the current life we have, so whatever.

    I can’t afford to buy bleeding edge, but I like my pixels. They don’t feel bloated to me, and I’ve been able to easily disable the behaviours I don’t like, which aren’t many.

    I do appreciate the camera.

    When it’s time to replace this one… I’ll see what the cheaper pixel looks like and it will quite possibly be what I go with. My phone does everything I want from it. Maybe it gets a little warm while taking video or doing things that can eat battery when it gets warm, but 99% of the time, it lasts all day, does whatever I need it to - just fine.

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    I’ve had 5 pixel phones, and 4 of them have stopped booting after about a year of use.

    Meanwhile my last Galaxy phone lasted over 6 years.

    Even with their cheaper retail price, they haven’t been more affordable to own for me.

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      I have heard lots of things about how terrible the Pixel 6 is. I have had mine since launch with no issues. Maybe I just got lucky, I don’t know.

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      Similar experience here. I loved the Google pixel and wanted to keep loving it, but they’re just not well made. My partner and I have both had them for years and they just don’t last. Meanwhile, we’re not big fans of Samsung, but their phones do last.

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      That’s really weird. I’m on my 4th Pixel (9 Pro), and my kids are still using my handed down 4a and 6…

      The only one that has ever failed was the 4a from that firmware update that killed the batteries, and Google replaced the battery for free and now it’s running like a champ

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        from what i’ve seen it seems like the pixel line just has a curse placed upon it, where every model has 1% of phones suffer from fairly major hardware problems and the other 99% are perfectly fine.