A study conducted in Germany found that men with higher IQs are less inclined to traditional values, but the lead author, psychologist and intelligence researcher Maximilian Krolo of Saarland University, said the researchers did not find these differences among women.
I will count of the list of Conservative scientists:
End of list
Okay but I’m not smart.
Knowing you aren’t smart makes you smarter than all the people who think they are smart but actually aren’t.
Reminds me of an old Rehab lyric:
I know I'm stupid so I must be smarter than youThat was a complete sentence with punctuation and a clause. Youre smarter than every living ‘conservative’.
Fuck IQ. Literally political stance is a better measurement of intelligence.
Wait…
“My social media isn’t an echo chamber”
Shit like this always gets posted. There’s not much meaningful connection between IQ and political views. Especially in a country like the US where both “sides” of the spectrum are just the same government with varying degrees of corporate cuckoldry
Okay? But this particular study was conducted in Germany. Not everything is about the US 🙄 also, we all know they’re all morons over there anyway
The study is about views, not party affiliation. In US both parties are the same but their voters definitely are not equally conservative. Republican voters wanted their party to be more fascist for a long time (and Trump delivered), democratic voters want their party to be way more progressive than it actually is.
Traditional values are a crutch for the intellectually unambitious and a cudgel for the ambitious.
I think being knowledgeable leads someone to be more liberal than they otherwise would have been. Less inclined to fear the outgroup and fear change. This is why a college degree is so associated with liberalism. I don’t know how well that corresponds to IQ, which itself is kind of wishy washy.
being knowledgeable
IQ has nothing to do with being knowledgeable. Shit headlines like this play into the exact same eugenics theory of humanity that gooners like RFK Jr and Peter Thiel have been pushing.
I don’t know how well that corresponds to IQ
It’s quite literally just a measurement of one’s pattern recognition speed. Has nothing to do with your politics.
Case in point, Christopher Langan, who regularly outperformed on these cognition tests, was a total nerd on trivia, and ended up becoming a forest ranger because he had a perpetual chip on his shoulder. Once his reputation blew up as someone who could ace cognitive tests, he leveraged that into becoming a right-wing grifter.
The guy is a total piece of shit who tests well. Go out to any of the Ivy League universities and you’ll find this kind of person in spades. Silicon Valley, the DC Beltway, Wall Street, Raytheon Acres, the Florida Real Estate scene - very intelligent assholes are a dime a dozen. FFS, we built our rocket labs on Nazi scientists. No shortage of right-wingers in the “High IQ” space.
What a surprise!
Duh.
As a high IQ person I would like to remind everyone that IQ has been coopted by a scientific racism and eugenics agenda, and the originator, a French man by the name of Alfred Binet,
“stressed that intellectual development progressed at variable rates and could be influenced by the environment; therefore, intelligence was not based solely on genetics, was malleable rather than fixed, and could only be found in children with comparable backgrounds.”
We can only assume that any correlation in beliefs and scoring is the product of an environment which tends to produce both or inhibits the production of both. IE Fox News makes you dumb, and Fox News makes you conservative, concurrently. The study does not mention TV.
I wonder if there’s a similar study that uses executive capacity (multitasking etc.) as a more objective measure of intelligence. When I was in school, this was the most supported way to objectively measure intelligence (but of course, is that actually intelligence? Intelligence is just a word we have. Having the word doesn’t mean that the concept exists.)
“The current study showed that high intelligence does not, as one might assume, lead to radical political positions. Instead, highly gifted adults are on average just as politically diverse and moderate as the rest of the population.”
Well that headline is…misleading.
Imagining a world where the headlines aren’t click bait and the articles are well researched. One day…
You’d need media that wasn’t predicated on advertising revenues.
I am pretty sure that I would flunk IQ tests, and I have leftist preferences. Mathematics and other subjects of high learning are not something I really understand. While I appreciate neat things like electricity, chemistry, design, and AI, I simply don’t understand them to any meaningful extent.
That sucks. I would like to have a character sheet with +10 bonuses across the board, and a platinum piece to start my game with. Same goes for the rest of the neighborhood.
There’s no flunking an IQ test, but you are probably a normal median person.
The fact they don’t think they’re a genius and know their limits suggests they’re probably smarter than average. I’ve found the dumbest people have an unshakable confidence they’re always correct.
What?? Sorry, the penises are blocking my view. Just too many penises. I hope its not an article trying to say something about how smart people who don’t have a sea of penises before them are. Yeah, just way too many penises. Some would say “totally not conservative”.
Aaah a feel-good article for leftists.
Plenty of dumb dumbs among us, don’t worry.
Present! I don’t even remember my times tables
Aaah a feel-good article for leftists.
Eh. I don’t feel particularly good that I’m surrounded by conservative idiots.
Don’t worry. Let a non dumb dumb explain.
There are many causality relationship kinds.
- Leftist -> big IQ: being leftist makes someone have big IQ
- Leftist <- big IQ: having big IQ makes someone a leftist.
- Leftist <-> big IQ: both 1 and 2. That is, saying “I am a leftist” and saying “I have big IQ” is the same, since one causes the other.
- Third parameter -> leftist AND third parameter -> big IQ: there is something that causes both being leftist and having big IQ.
In case 1, all leftists have big IQ. But NOT all big IQ ppl are leftist.
In case 2, all big IQ ppl are leftist. But NOT all leftists have big IQ.
In case 3, all big IQ ppl are leftist, and all leftists have big IQ.
In case 4, some NOT all leftist have big IQ. And NOT all big IQ ppl are leftist. But some are.
Assuming having big IQ is desirable, leftists would want either case 1 or 3. Since that would mean they have a big IQ.
However, the headline seems to suggest case 2. And in reality. And it could still be case 4.
Of course, in reality there is an uncountable number of parameters, not just 3, so don’t take the “all” in my comment as literally “all”. Reality probably resembles more case 4.
If this were a feel-good article for leftists, the headline would suggest case 1 or 3. Since that is what leftists want.
Even assuming the best case scenario of case 2 where all big IQ people are leftists. If you define big IQ as “top 10%” and low IQ as “not big IQ”: it is technically possible for 90% of leftists to be low IQ. And if low IQ is 50-50 leftist-conservative, 78% of leftists would be low IQ.
what about big PP tho?
Could be the third parameter that causes both leftism and big IQ.
Someone would need to do the study on that to be sure though.
Sure, but perhaps take solace that we’re less deliberately hateful and that stupidity isn’t celebrated as it is among the arch conservatives?
I think that political allegiance is often much more about emotions and sociological relations than intellect. Class thinking is more prevalent than we assume nowadays
There’s a reason universities lean heavily left
I would disagree on the “heavily” unless you accept the US definition of the right-left paradigm.
What university did you go to?
A canadien one.
Also ignore if you mean heavy in population ratio not how far the needle goes.
Highly depends on what university you go to and whether or not you participate in the Greek culture.
It really doesnt.
Can you elaborate on that?
Do you mean like “greek” college cults, like the alpha beta omega stuff? Or like Greek from the actual country, Greece?
Use your brain. Obviously it’s the Greek clubs. Everyone who replied to my comment doesn’t understand American Greek fraternities/sororities and the terrible culture surrounding them.
I saw that and was leading the conclusion for people. You’re welcome.
Edit: but also, what IF greece somehow had a culture that led to this
whether or not you participate in the Greek culture.
yogurt?
We’re talking about Universities here, not the hundreds of bullshit liberal arts colleges that are just sleep camps for the Learning Annex.
click-bait
Um ackshually It’s ‘rage bait’, specifically for conservatives.
Click bait entices anyone to click through omitted information. Rage bait seeks a click through an emotional reaction from a specific demographic.
Clickbait:
“Local Restaurant Owner Tried One Menu Change and Sales Doubled Overnight”
“A Mom Working 3 Jobs Lost 60 lbs By Cutting This One Ingredient From Her Diet”
Ragebait:
“Study Finds Conservativel Men Have Smaller Penises Than Liberal Men.”
“New Data Shows Remote Workers May Be Less Valuable Than In-Office Staff”
Not all ragebait is clickbait. Ragebait is targeted. Know your enemy.
It’s also just reporting the findings of a study, which also tracks.
Breaking News: Conservatives tend to be dumber; more at 11!
