• rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works
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    29 days ago

    Unfortunately, it’s way dumber than that

    The north pole is the middle of the map and the moon goes in circles like the sun. The incredible brightness of the sun is not visible after it’s passed visibly over the horizon round in a flat circle and neither is the moon. It is not explained how the sun goes definitively down over the horizon from one geographical perspective and up into the sky from another based on this flat disk.

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        29 days ago

        Ah yes the sun the thing which famously isn’t always shining on some part of the globe

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      28 days ago

      My favorite part about their map is that, among the many other ways to test the Earth is round, they could just fly from Joburg to Perth or Sydney on a private charter plane, and when the flight time isn’t 37 hours, it would only be possible on a globe.

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      28 days ago

      Oh it is explained, though, but not consistently. I have heard explanations of that the light refraction makes the sun look lower when it moves away, to a point where its visibility is hidden by the horizon, like a mirrage of the sky. Another explanation is that the surface of the earth isn’t flat, but bulges slightly, like a dome, making the sun disappear behind the dome every day. I’m sure there are more explanations as well.

      The thing about flat earth theories is that they always have an answer for whatever you throw at them. They are so committed to their idea, that they will invent reasonings on the spot which become more and more convoluted - often in conflict with other parts of their theory.

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      29 days ago

      Can’t land on a lie.

      I wonder are there flat earthers who are also simultaneously NOT moon landing deniers? Or is that like a prerequisite.

      • Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca
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        28 days ago

        When the moon is a lie and the flat earthers cry, that’s amore.

        When the sun really shines, flat earthers ask why, that’s amore.

        They are ding, ding-a-ling-a-lings

        ding-a-ling-a-lings and you’ll sing, “stupid fella”

        Brains are dead, flippy-flippy-fled, flippy-flippy-fled

        contracted rubella.

    • mechoman444@lemmy.world
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      29 days ago

      The moon is a transparent light source.

      You might be asking yourself how does a transparent object generate it’s own light? Well let me explain: trust me bro.

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        29 days ago

        Not sure if you were aware of the meme, but I was making a portal reference, as in “the cake is a lie.” The image looks the same as the portals in the video game “portal.” The original context of “The cake is a lie” was to convey the message that a reward is being used to motivate Chell, the player character of Portal, without any intent of delivering. It was my attempt at making fun of flat earthers. I do believe the earth is round, that we orbit the sun, that the moon orbits earth, and that the moon landing was real.

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          29 days ago

          Oooo Kay.

          Not sure why you found it necessary to explain the joke.

          But like you I am also making fun of flat earthers.

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            29 days ago

            I guess I misinterpreted the intent of your comment, like you might have thought I was a flat earther. My bad.

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    29 days ago

    Umm… No. There are tons of totally flat disc shaped objects that look mostly the same except have different sized bites missing because of that giant baby in the sun, and they all drift by one at a time.

    The baby can’t grab them to finish eating because it doesn’t have arms. Just that giggling face.

  • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    28 days ago

    Well hold on. I may have just woken up, but, if earth were a disc, couldn’t the disc just be rotating and or flipping?

    Edit: I am slightly more awake now and had a laugh. What if the underside of earth had stuff down there? And what if you could get down there somehow? And what if the ground were just continuous? I feel like gravity is important here. Fuckin flat earthers, man.

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      28 days ago

      Yeah, that’s how I’ve seen them describing near-equator orbits more than once. (Back when the entire thing was an internet joke, the models were very funny.)

      It’s polar orbits they have an issue with.

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        28 days ago

        I’m significantly more awake and just realized this is a shitpost. The human mind is an interesting thing.

        Do you still have evidence of the old posts or any of the old models of how orbits work?

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      28 days ago

      What if the underside of earth had stuff down there?

      That’s where you get a lot of the real 🤯-tier pseudoscience and pseudohistory.

      Dinosaurs and lizard people are down there. Nazis and Communists are down there. Mole people. Atlantis. The Garden of Eden. The sky is the limit.

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      28 days ago

      This is because flat earthers don’t understand anything about science or physics or basic common sense and as a result believe the most insane things.

      They spend their entire time trying to come up with increasingly convoluted ways that a flat earth could work, rather than just accepting that the simplest explanation is that, in fact, isn’t flat. Their explanation for why you can’t see mount Everest from the top of any reasonably high hill anywhere else on earth, involves throwing out all scientific thinking back to Aristotle and starting again, don’t believe in geometry or infinitely parallel lines.

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      28 days ago

      According to flat earth supporters, if the earth were moving in any way at all you would feel it. Since we don’t feel any motion obviously the earth is stationary

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    28 days ago

    There’s a guy in my town that has a massive “THE EARTH IS FLAT” sticker on the back of his car. Every time I see him I keep hoping it’s a troll, but I live in Missouri so it wouldn’t surprise me if he actually believes it.

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      28 days ago

      The moon is a sticker on the sky which is a big glass dome with holes in it. Or something like that, honestly they’re not really very consistent.

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      28 days ago

      So, they aren’t exactly a monolith, different folks have different ideas. But generally speaking, they beleive all celestial bodies are basically spinning above us. I know they consider the sun to be actually really small and shockingly close to the surface. Generally the idea is the antarctic is the rim of the disk, with a giant ice wall that keeps the oceans in. Gravity is an illusion caused by the Earth constantly accelerating upwards.

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      28 days ago

      How do they explain seasons, solar eclipses, lunar eclipses, lunar phases, tides, polar nights, polar days, etc?

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    29 days ago

    Flat earth theory is that earth is a pancake (must sit on turtles all the way down) where north pole is at center and antartica on the edge.

    They say that sun and moon just make circular patterns above the pancake, but that is still impossible as the sun and moon would still always be visible if it is just further away from your spot, and the sunrise/sunset dynamic can no longer happen. Even if you change it to a dome shaped pancake, to get some hiding of the sun, then southern hemisphere no longer has predictable daytimes.

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      28 days ago

      I was about to say that. Isn’t it something like “it just randomly travels from left to right in mid-air, but due to optical illusions it’s not visible 100% of the time”?

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        28 days ago

        Something about dark energoe bending the light in a way that everything looks like the earth is round or something I don’t really know or understand it and frankly I don’t want to.