Andrew Tate has been indicted for various crimes including trafficking minors, money laundering, and sexual offenses in Romania.

Andrew Tate has been indicted by Romanian prosecutors for various crimes, including trafficking minors, money laundering, and sex with a minor, according to reports.

  • Alexfire@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    11 days ago

    Q: What % of people that are abusive in the various ways, some even convicted of crimes, support controlling, authoritarian ways, vs warm and authoritative ways, equality, etc?

    A: If you group all abusers together, roughly 85% to 90% actively support or default to controlling, authoritarian methods to handle their relationships. The remaining 10% to 15% might state they believe in equality or warmth, but their personal actions fundamentally break those principles due to antisocial traits or psychological instability. Scroll to the top for it all: share.google/aimode/LLyrxiS5JETGN3tzG

    • Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      11 days ago

      Pedo, grifter, egoistical, bad at money laundering, constantly talks about masculinity and shit while acting like a giant crybaby, entire personality revolves about being perceived as the manliest manly man while looking like an absolute goblin (with expensive tacky clothes on top). Has an IQ lower than his anal temperature in normal units °C.

      If you still have no idea whether it’s about Tate or Trump… well, that’s why I think the Trump administration will definitely try to save these fuckers

    • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.caEnglish
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      10 days ago

      If the rumours are true, Andrew Tate is to Baron Trump as Jeffrey Epstein was to Donald Trump.

      So maybe Tate’s extradition warrant disappears. Or maybe he “hangs himself” in a prison cell. Or maybe he does get extradited because the rumours aren’t true or because Trump doesn’t give a shit about his children enough to intervene.

  • bedwyr@piefed.caEnglish
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    11 days ago

    Turns out most dudes’s cheering on of macho dickheads that take advantage of woman, ends with their own daughters. Who knew? /s

    Fuck this guy. First tough guy I’ve known trying to be hyper masculine that wears woman’s blouses, felt I had to add that.

    • myyass@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      11 days ago

      I’ve worked with a fair share of people that have well, killed lots of people. They looked out for me. This guy is … I don’t know looks and sounds weak? Like he would hide under the blouse at the sound of a shot.

  • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexusEnglish
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    11 days ago

    I am someone who in most cases argues for rehabilitation instead of punishment. But for these two repeat offenders castration and lifelong hard labor are what i wish for - there is nothing to rehabilitate here, only protection for society to achieve, and what monetary reward they get for the bone-breaking work they have to do should be used as a pension for their victims.

    • bold_omi@lemmy.todayEnglish
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      11 days ago

      Castration is cruel and unusual punishment. Crimes like rape and murder warrant jail for life. But if we start mutilating people, we cannot be even vaguely just.

      • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexusEnglish
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        11 days ago

        I know. It doesn’t happen often that i leave the principle of rehab behind, because i believe that most people that commit crimes are just common people who had bad luck regarding where and in what community they were born, who they latched onto during the time growing up and so on. But there are some people (who we all know) who consistently keep getting away with this shit because of who they know and how much money they have - being the total opposite of the kind of people i talked above - and i just wish someone with less scruples than i have makes sure they cant hurt anyone anymore, regardless of what follows.

    • 2xar@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      11 days ago

      *Everything he needs to run as a republican. I think these would still disqualify him to run as a democrat.

    • AfterlifeAdventures@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      11 days ago

      Well let’s see if anything happens before we take notes also, who’s in power there a nazi pedo running that country? kinda hard with imminent bullshit around every corner here

        • kuiskaaja@lemmy.mlEnglish
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          11 days ago

          that’s the first time i’ve gotten a meme made out of me, i feel honoured

          that’s a better reply than calling me a pedophile after i said a 2 year old age gap in your late teens isn’t rape and a 18 year old having sex with much older people is problematic

          guess u couldn’t think of a good reply when i called out just how absurd saying that is

        • kuiskaaja@lemmy.mlEnglish
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          11 days ago

          it’s not whataboutism, i’m not debating anything, i’m just curious about what that particular user believes

          • M137@lemmy.todayEnglish
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            11 days ago

            Ah, yes, you’re just curious about that independent of the thread topic and what the person you replied to said…
            This is on the same level as a thread about Trumps ICE militia kidnapping an disappearing people and you replying with “ah, but what about that one time Obama wore a tan suit? How do you feel about that?”
            All you managed to do with your comment is show that you’re ok with child rape because the age difference might be less, which is real fucking bad.

            • kuiskaaja@lemmy.mlEnglish
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              11 days ago

              that’s exactly the exact opposite of what i was saying, if you would’ve bothered to read my replies in the thread you would’ve found that out

            • kuiskaaja@lemmy.mlEnglish
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              11 days ago

              why would i respond to a comment with a post?

              is the question really that hard to answer?

              i’m just curious because some of you guys think a 2 year age gap in a relationship in your later teens is rape while it’s not problematic at all when a freshly turned 18 year old dates or fucks someone decades older. for some people this is black and white to the point of ridiculousness, i’m not saying that particular user is like that, but that’s what the question is for

              • MeatPilot@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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                11 days ago

                Kinda a weird hill to die on. But I’ll answer this for you.

                Yeah, you need to put the line somewhere. Is it ok to send a 15 year old to war or let them smoke?

                They are children is the reason, not the age gap. The fact that’s not obvious to you is disturbing.

                • kuiskaaja@lemmy.mlEnglish
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                  11 days ago

                  there’s these things called romeo and juliet laws.

                  there needs to be a strict border but it could be even higher imo, when combined with reasonable romeo and juliet laws.

                  the amount of downvotes on my comments has been a wake up call for me to how completely out of touch this website is. there’s not a single person i know that would call a 18 year old having sex with a 16 year old rape. this is just like the insanity ive seen on reddit, which is not surprising as this post is on reddit.world.

                  this response signals just how chronically online this place is. pretty much nobody in the world thinks this issue is as black and white as people here are making it seem.

    • AmidFuror@fedia.io
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      11 days ago

      I’ve had sex with a minor, and it was definitely a thing. It wasn’t rape, either.

          • M137@lemmy.todayEnglish
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            11 days ago

            Then how is that relevant? This is about an adult having sex with minors, which is rape. All you did with your comment was show that you are trying to defend him. This whole “sex with a minor” thing has been a very talked about deal for over a decade now with all the well known pedophiles in places of power and the media not calling them what they are (rapists).
            Other than defending him and the others (Epstein, Trump etc.) I seriously don’t see any reason to make the comment you did.

        • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          11 days ago

          I mean, I lost my virginity at 17 to a 19-year-old, and it definitely wasn’t rape.

          Obviously there’s not a lot of nuance when you’re talking about a full grown man taking advantage of a minor, but I also think it’s kind of ridiculous to suggest two 16-year-olds having sex, or two teenagers barely on either side of 18, can’t be consensual.

          • JoeBigelow@lemmy.caEnglish
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            11 days ago

            I got my relatively prude vanilla ass handed to me for attempting to draw a distinction between rock stars given social consent and then proceeding to break a law and 70 year old power brokers making false promises to get young women in positions where they cannot say no. I believe that conflating even those two by not acknowledging that they have different terms, is disingenuous to the victims who gave all of zero consent and were not interested in the action, but we’re subject to violence.

            • JoeBigelow@lemmy.caEnglish
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              11 days ago

              To say that few us us here are interested in actually protecting women, just being seen as white knights.

              White knights may now proceed to shower me with downvotes.

          • im_fine_sandy@nord.pubEnglish
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            11 days ago

            Yes, but what the law says and what is going on in practice are often (or usually) two different things.

            In your own example, a forensic psychiatrist might have interrogated you when you were 17 and concluded that you were of sound mind and had the requisite emotional and logical faculty to “consent” in every reasonable definition of the term.

            However, the law says that your consent in this case has no legal baring. This is not to undermine your own agency as a 17 year old, but to protect those 17 year olds who were not as well developed as you, or who might be manipulated some how, and so on.

            The trade-off is that there usually has to be a complainant. In your own example you or your parents would (in most jurisdictions), need to ask the police to press charges.

            Of course, the age of consent varies between jurisdictions. Here I think it’s 16. I went to school with someone who got married when she was 16 because she had become pregnant when she was 15. I didn’t realise at the time how messed up that was.

            I’m reminded of the fascinating and macabre history of Pitcairn Island. The abridged version is that in the 1700’s (?) a sailing ship named the Bounty visited Tahiti for several months where many of the crew became involved with Tahitian ladies. Rather than return to their lives they mutinied, and absconded to an uninhabited island with their brides. Much violence and depravity, and later fanatical religious stuff ensued, but ultimately a tiny community of several dozen people survived to the 1990’s. At that time it emerged that underage sex / rape was a common and even celebrated practice. It’s a truly incredible story for a variety of reasons.

            • FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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              11 days ago

              Law depends on jurisdiction, some have lower ages of consent and some give allowances when the ages are within a couple years of each other.

            • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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              11 days ago

              However, the law says that your consent in this case has no legal baring.

              Many places have a sliding scale, usually a window of a few years. 19 and 17 was legal under that scale.

              • Danquebec@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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                11 days ago

                That would be crazy otherwise.

                John (17 years and 11 months) and Mary (17 years and 5 months) are in an intimate relationship since 6 months and are sexually active.

                John hits his birthday and now they can’t have sex for 6 months (otherwise it would be rape).

          • kuiskaaja@lemmy.mlEnglish
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            11 days ago

            it’s strange how some of y’all are getting upvoted while i got 18 downvotes and someone calling me a pedophile when i said the same thing

            the dogpiling on this website is crazy, it’s just like reddit in that sense

              • kuiskaaja@lemmy.mlEnglish
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                11 days ago

                yeah, true. it’s also i guess this issue being sensitive and people in these very online spaces not realizing they have an extremist view on this which is completely detached from the real world

            • Karjalan@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              11 days ago

              It is very hard, without writing a mini essay, to convey all the relavent context, tone and meaning via a text based comment.

              Often what people write will end up being interpreted differently by people reading it and different to your intentions.

              Also the, for lack of a better term, “dog pile” effect really matters. If the first few people down vote you, that changes how successive people will interpret your message. “Maybe it seems harmless but it’s -3, so I might have missed some context and it’s more nefarious than I realised” etc.

    • Carl@anarchist.nexusEnglish
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      11 days ago

      While I agree, the way the article is worded makes me suspect that is the name of the crime they’re accused of.

      Sort of like how Trump was found liable for “sexual abuse”, because the jurisdiction it occurred in strictly defines rape as penis-in-vagina sex. And since he “only” (ugh) used his fingers, it wasn’t technically rape as far as the law was concerned. But the judge who oversaw the case later had to clarify that it would colloquially be referred to as rape, even though that wasn’t the technical term that the lawsuit used. Because Trump was trying to use the “well I wasn’t found liable for rape, so she can’t say I raped her” argument in his defamation lawsuit.

    • realitaetsverlust@piefed.zipEnglish
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      11 days ago

      I don’t think Romanian law sees it like that. Minors above 14 can technically consent to sexual acts with adults, which makes it still illegal, but not rape and carries a much lighter sentence.

      German law (and quite a few other European countries) is even more relaxed in that regard, while it’s still technically illegal to have sex with minors aged 14+, if they consented and weren’t somehow pressured etc, there will usually be no prosecution.