Either that is the ugliest home design or this is AI generated nonsense. Those buildings make no sense.
Now that you mention it
I’ve seen some shit in suburbia, so I’m not entirely sure here myself.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/y945S8aiPtcwiU6XA
This picture is like 15 years old. It is just an ugly house
Hahaha! I love it!
An actual house so ugly it looks like AI slop. Thanks for looking it up and sharing.
You will all eat VERY VERY well for about 2 weeks out of the year.
You will have 1 month where you struggle to consume way too much of one single vegetable every week and you will dread having to find different recipes to use ot all up.
Right now I have about 16 very large cucumbers. I don’t even like pickles that much.
My 15 yo daughter eats cucumbers like apples, she would mow through those 16 in one week.
I think you gave birth to a rabbit.
Do they stomp their feet too when angry?
Who? Daughters or rabbits? Nevermind, the answer is yes!
Maybe that’s when to feed your neighbours.
Ours just gave us a load of tomatoes and aubergine. Lovely.
If we’d had more than 6 strawberries we’d probably have shared too lol.
Yeah our neighbours have ven bigger gardens so not really
Everyone in your neighbourhood has a bigger vegetable garden than you, and grows the same vegetables as you (if they were different vegetables, they might want those)?
Also they also harvest in the same two week window as you?
Because if it’s outside that window, then everyone can spread the love on their own harvest week.
Ya gotta pickle and dehydrate. Last time I had room for a garden I got the preservation and storage down in my last season.
Buy a dehydrator, never make jerky in it, you’ll never get the smell out. Works great for beans, onions and carrots.
There’s not much besides lettuce and tomatoes you can’t pickle out of a temperate zone type garden.
I was eating well well into winter.
I have a 12-tray Cabellas dehydrator and have made loads of jerky. I even bought a slicer.
I’ve pickeled, I’ve helped my mother can back in the day.
I love my neighbors, but fuck no, that’s WAY too much work.
At my last house I did hydroponic swiss shard. I’m thinking about cranking that up inside this winter.
I tried lettuce, but could never get it to harden off. as soon as I plucked the leaves they just went limp, it was like they were inflated by the water.
Think you forgot that Madmax truck and some metal armoured raiders pillaging the garden and house until there’s nothing left. /jk
Finally a good use of the “front yard”.
Front yards are for block parties but nowadays everyone just hates everyone so they go home and close the shades./jk
Back yards work well to for block parties
There’s something to the front yard that I’d never thought about. Yes back yard does work well too, but it feels more private and invite only. Whereas the front yard would feel more like an invitation for anyone to drop by. Like a neighbor from the next street over going for a walk. It seems like a more open social event that lets you get to know more people than the neighbors you’re already acquainted with.
Good points about the front yard vs back yard
“Anarchy under the umbrella of a very authoritarian system.”
Arguably, “Socialism under the umbrella of a very authoritarian barely-socialist system.”
A scientist would tell you this is bad data. Arguably good propaganda, but bad science.
Where’s the sidewalk?
In the bottom right?
My city only requires sidewalks depending on how much vehicular traffic, how much foot traffic, and if kids are expected to navigate that street to get to school. And even then “one side” doesn’t mean “same side.” My house and the one next to my neighbor have the unfortunate yards missing sidewalks, meaning people have to use my next-for neighbor’s sidewalk, cross the street, use my neighbor’s sidewalk, and then can continue down until they have to cross the street again because the sidewalk is unusable at a certain point.
The reasons we have missing and broken sidewalks are that:
- The city won’t help pay for them
- The city has strict regulations on how they’re installed
- The 50-foot run of sidewalk would cost more than a car to install, and since they’re often seen as insurance liabilities, it’s practically impossible to get a reasonable loan to cover the up-front costs.
“My yard is the shitty impediment because I can’t afford to fund a public service” is not one of the sad realities of home ownership that I expected to encounter.
My city has a sidewalk renovation program, which is great.
I have a corner lot and practically triple the sidewalk my neighbors have. Cost me over 4 grand to have the city mandated sidewalk repairs done. Kind of a pain, but it was cheaper to get it bundled with them than to have a contractors come out and fix it.
The city has strict regulations on how they’re installed
Could you install a very narrow terrace at the front of your yard?
In many cases “the city has strict regulations on how they’re installed” should be read as “the city requires you to use one of their pre-approved contractors.”
If it’s for a sidewalk, yes. I’m wondering how strict their definition of sidewalk is.
Walk up the driveway, than under the wooden pergola at a 90 degree angle, than it turns to the house.
Driveways are parts of sidewalks, don’t need a seperate one if the driveway is wide enough to walk past the cars.
They mean like this:
But, a lot of neighborhoods don’t have them:
I specifically bought in a neighborhood with sidewalks, because kids. But, as GenX I didn’t anticipate that GenZ would be the first generation that didn’t play outside all summer like we used to.
This drives me nuts, I know sidewalks are an extra cost. But I’d happily pay a portion to get some put in around us.
I don’t live in an HOA, but I swear all the surrounding neighborhoods just don’t want them to keep the “riff raff” out. Still I ride bikes with my kid in the mega HOA neighborhood across the street, a lot flatter. Have to ride in the storm gutter if a car comes by.
They are building another mega HOA housing development next to the current one, houses at double the price. They certainly won’t have sidewalks because it’s targeting 60+. No restricted by age, but by money. They’ll probably put a gate on it too.
Didn’t even know that was a thing, where I live one side still requires a sidewalk.
We’ll need an after picture too, I assume they’re going to replace that concrete tightrope with one?
Respond to the wrong comment?
I think they’re saying that sidewalk is too narrow, which it does look minimal compared to the street, like a wheelchair would have a hard time, especially with the edge curving down like that.
It’s a 40’ wide road with a 36” sidewalk and 12” curb. People can pass a wheelchair going down it fine. Look at the vehicle and the bins for scale context.
It think they’re trying to funny that there’s no shoulder, which would just waste space on a 40km/h residential road that is filled with parking after school and work.
a 36” sidewalk
So… About the minimum for a single person to walk with little leeway, normally in a safe indoor area with no car traffic?
36" is the absolute bare minimum required walkway space in the US by ADA to technically be wheelchair compliant in that a single wheelchair user might be able to use it, roughly half the minimum 1.8m clear width recommended by Australia’s Department of Transport, and less than half the 2m minimum unobstructed walkway space recommended for pedestrians in low-traffic areas by the UK’s department for transport. This is undeniably too narrow.
That road looks wide enough for about 4 cars, it’s not a “waste” to surrender some of that to make it slightly less hostile to pedestrians.
I think they’re commenting that the sidewalk is super skinny. I legit didn’t see it at first glance.
The sidewalk is 36” (1m actually) with a 12” curb.
It’s large enough for wheelchairs to get by. The road is also 40’ wide so two cars can pass with parking along each side. The vehicle in the back provides some scale.
Plus the bins in the back, they’re atleast 24” by 24”, clearly the sidewalk is wider.
So like, technically a sidewalk but that sidewalk is gonna be embarrassed af in gym class
GenZ would be the first generation that didn’t play outside all summer like we used to.
Idk where you live but going outside in August is absolutely brutal down in Texas. All the kids go out in Fall and Winter, when the weather is much more bearable. You’ll have the running trails packed shoulder-to-shoulder for half a mile as soon as temperatures get under 90. But not a degree before.
I don’t know, My nieces are in VR or on their phones alot, but outside is still on equal footing. And they are meeting other kids out there.
I think for people that can sustain their social needs with indirect relationships, maybe. But anyone that needs in-person socializing, they are gonna go get it. They don’t go outside as much extra during the school year, but they spend the majority of summer break out there.
This is larp. If everything goes great with this little pretend garden and you spend full working days of couple of people for the whole season, you’ll get 15 moderate salads from it, tops. You’re not feeding shit with it.
That’s a hobby, not a praxis or whatever.Everyone knows real praxis isn’t leaving the house and making connections with real people on tangible projects. Gotta stay posting revolution memes and doom scrolling
Having a hobby is good, nobody is saying that. Pretending that your hobby is actually a community service is not. You’re not more or less of a people connector and community builder when you chat to your discord kittens from the basement than when you sit ass up picking weeds on your driveway cucumber patch.
Terminally online take
dude I had more lettuce than I could possibly eat just from the volunteers in my 4x8 planter that I didn’t bother pulling out because I couldn’t reach the other side. beans and peas and tomatoes and asparagus and lettuce and cabbage and onions and chives and raspberries all have volume in the <100sqft I’ve given them all
yes, gardening at this scale is a hobby and won’t really save you money/time. but don’t pretend it can’t have a real impact on the source of your food.
if more people did this instead of have a manicured lawn, the rabbits in the neighbourhood would be eating good
Nothing wrong with having a hobby. Selfgrown veggies taste much better than storebought anyway.
So, what do you eat when the union votes for a strike? Copies of Das Kapital?
You eat your five tomatoes that you’ve spend 10 months growing of course. Other people will eat food that they bought with strike funds they allocated prior to a strike. They could’ve told you about those but you were too busy growing tomatoes on your driveway.
Okay, but hear me out.
Those strike funds last a lot longer if the workers know how canning their own food works. And they last even longer than that if they grew it themselves.
Gardening is literally THE proletarian “hobby”, because more often than not, you grow more than you need. Meaning you can share. Mutual aid, see?
Also, five tomatoes? I dunno what kind of under watered little vines you’ve been growing, we pulled nearly three pounds of tomatoes from our garden from just three plants. And I barely did any weeding this year. That’s enough for some damn good vodka marinara.
I lived off the land in my youth, so I know exactly what is needed to grow food. I know how much land you need to feed a family, I know how much work it is to feed a family. You can spare me with “growing more than needed” bullshit, you have more than you need because you need zero. “It’s not five tomatoes, it’s almost kilo and a half” is exactly what I’m talking about. I’m happy for you that you’re doing it, growing tomatoes is nice and fun if you’re into that sort of things, and it’s might be the only way to actually get your hands on good tomatoes this days. I, however, despise this “I’m actually a proletarian doing a mutual aid” larp, because you aren’t and you don’t. It’s insulting and performative, and if your goal is actual mutual aid, it’s actively goes against it. It’s not better or worse than any other hobby you might have.
Feed your neighbours?
That amount of land is unlikely to feed a single person, let alone their neighbours.
https://fincatierra.com/journal/how-much-land-to-feed-a-person
Feed your neighbours the occasional veggie during summertime.
I miss giant zucchinis. The groundhogs have defeated everyone in my neighborhood.
Who’s to say that they’re only gardening on this single plot of land? Why not plant a food forest in your front and back yard, and coordinate with your neighbors to have the whole neighborhood build a food coop?
Also, how do you get “feed your neighbor every single calorie they will ever need” out of this meme? You’re literally just loading a whole bunch of extra baggage onto a simple point that we should be growing and sharing food for our community. There’s no reason to make perfect the enemy of good.
I live in a town that is experiencing significant growth. The plot of land across the street from me had one house on it, it was torn down and they’re building four in its place. My own house sits on two lots, so I have an above average amount of land for this suburban town. My yard, all told, is 8-10 times the size of what is pictured above.
I couldn’t grow a year’s worth of side dishes for myself on my land, if I knocked down every tree and shrub and replaced them with something productive. I do some backyard gardening, I can a year’s worth of jelly (in fact that’s a project for this coming week) and I raise a summer’s worth of peppers and tomatoes.
solarpunk tends to be more about vibes than viability
I think it’s assumed that we are to imagine we’re looking at a small part of a whole.
HOA says nah
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The deer density throughout much of America would make that impossible without some serious fencing.
It’s not stealing if it’s free
bigotry against marginalized normadic people is not exactly very solarpunk
i suggest building solidarity instead
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Congrats! You’re literally the European version of those Americans who are like “I’m not racist, but you gotta watch out around black folks”
People downvoting you don’t have any experience with organized theivery purporting itself as a custom. Plenty of respectable Romani that don’t act like con artists and crooks, but there are also plenty still causing the stigma to remain. Especially in Eastern Europe.
Why not call it criminal gangs, when that is what it is? Making an entire ethnic group responsible for the actions of some is racism.
I feel like that distinction is made by using the words Romani or Gypsy.
It isn’t.
Disgusting! I hope to never live to see such horrific living conditions in MY America /S
No need to worry about a sidewalk, there are no pedestrians in this car centric neighborhood.
Yeah that’s a no-go. The lawn extension must be kept less than 12" tall under city ordinance, and you need a license if you’re going to sell or give away those vegetables…
I was worried about this and called the city/township and turns out, as long as it’s cultivated, my plants can be as tall as I want!
I can’t make a fence with trelliseseses though. They were very adamant about that.
But can you make a trellis maze? Get lost in your grapes
Maybe! Just as long as it’s NOT A FENCE. I could call them again, but I think the idea of a trellis maze would upset them, and then I’d be behind the making of a new law lol.
Hence the anarchy.
you need a license if you’re going to sell or give away those vegetables
Wait what?
Does come with a cost?
It’s because something something business activity.
Something something taking potential profits from major chain grocery stores, and we can’t have that.
Well there is that but they also have to go through the same beruacracy (they can just afford the red tape anyways plus lobbying to convert those nice residentials to being strip malls)
What bureaucracy? It’s vegetables in a garden. Pick them, wash them, eat them. This isn’t commercial farming where you’re using pesticides, tractors, desiel emissions, manure… It’s a garden on the corner of someone’s house.
These people likely aren’t selling their stock to a global market, but rather letting their neighbours take something for dinner.
This chain was about selling said vegetables, which is a commercial activity regardless of scale
You don’t need a license to sell vegetables only like processed foods and shit like that
Tell me you are a politically illiterate “left”-lib without telling me you are a politically illiterate “left”-lib
I’m out of the loop, what’s a “left”-lib?
Anyone I disagree with. Look, I drew them as the virgin and I am the Chad.
Someone who grows food for their neighbors I guess
Someone who doesn’t need to have the threat of violence to do good things. That’s the issue it seems.
Wild to me that Americans aren’t allowed to do this
It can get overly complicated. there’s so many random laws that basically you give up. Like I have a tiny garden in the back yard, which won’t give you issues; but the front yard can result in a $250 daily fine if it’s not to their liking. I had to cut off part of my driveway, which everyone else has, so my lot can be more “herbaceous” because someone (neighbor that has a tree cutting company, salty cunt) across the street called the city about me trimming a tree so a branch so it didn’t fall on my roof. I made sure to get the shittiest invasive grass you can get.
In Massachusetts near Boston I do not have to deal with any of that shit so my front yard looks exactly like this.
As Sam wrote, HOAs are terrible. I thought I escaped by moving only to have the city do the same, sigh. Bonus points: I have a old oak tree that’s half dead, can’t be cut down because it’s “protected” and it’s destroying my foundation and driveway. But the next hurricane will likely topple the tree on the road and it’s their problem then since the area it’s on is “city property” so yeah you’re luck you can have a garden. I really wanted to put one in the front yard then again the tree will kill it all anyway.
I am only lucky in my front yard. My back yard has 3 very large trees shading it. I would never cut them down but did find out pawpaws love shade and started down a rabbit hole of what else can I do back here.
I’m pretty sure that this mostly comes down to whether or not you have an HOA. HOAs are the literal devil.
HOAs are probably okay for condos where the property is shared. Other than that I agree. Also they are rooted in racism so I harshly judge people in single family suburbs defending them.
Americans entirely do this. It really just depends where you live
They are, just depends if you’re in an HOA or what the laws are if you’re within city limits. If you’re in unincorporated land then it’s pretty free and wild. Earth ships are a thing and started in New Mexico.
Hell, it even depends on the HOA. I live in an HOA and there are plenty of yards in the neighborhood like this. We have a pretty chill HOA. It doesn’t do much beyond taking care of a few communal spaces, organizing a couple of annual events like a community garage sale, and enforcing the most absolute basic of yard maintenance requirements. (A well-tended garden on the front yard is perfectly fine. Turning your yard into a junkyard or having three foot high grass in your front yard isn’t. You can do what you want with your property, it just needs to be clean and intentional. You could convert your whole yard over to zero-maintenance clover, and that would be perfectly fine.)
And that’s the kind of HOA I like. I do want my neighbors to maintain their properties. I want people to be free to mold their homes into whatever form they want, but no one intentionally sets out to have a yard filled with junk cars or three foot high grass. People plant grass with the intention of mowing it, it just gets away from them.
If you want grass, mow it. If you want a garden, plant it and tend it. If you want the lowest environmental impact and least effort, plant clover or other low-maintenance ground cover. Do whatever you want. I don’t care. Just keep it clean and intentional. Hell, one of my neighbors keeps a giant demon skeleton in their front yard year-round. It’s weird, but it’s intentional, so it’s fine.
I don’t want to live in a neighborhood where every house is the same. I want the freedom to express myself through my home, and I want my neighbors to have the same freedom. But at the same time, I want to live in a place where people maintain their homes. I don’t care what form you maintain your home to. But I do want it maintained. Grow as big of a garden as you want, just don’t neglect it and let it get overgrown. If you just don’t have the time and resources for a lot of yard maintenance, plant something like clover. It doesn’t take a lot of effort or resources to keep a yard neat and clean.
Is it normal in suburbs / cities?
Normal? Probably not normal anywhere. The money and effort in farming usually isn’t offset by the production of such a small plot. It would be more of a hobby. What is more common is a dedicated space for farming within a suburban area. Typically they have a shared area and you pay monthly for your plot. Either that or some people with a green thumb in urban areas can turn their high-rise apartment into quite the greenhouse.
When it comes to feeding the masses efficiently farmland is still the dominant and most efficient method in most countries.
lol I just noticed that comment after i did post a very similar comment…
But for example suburbs are indeed a little bit well… badly regulated…
The US is a big place. Whether or not you’re allowed to do this depends on where you live.
I went to Portland, OR about a year ago, and wandered aimlessly for a couple hours before concluding that Portland is the world capital of front-yard gardening.
And our average house price is only $550,000!
Yeah, for example, Earthships are more difficult to build here in Europe (regulations…) than in, for example, New Mexico where they originated.
Yeah, but I’ve been told America is the Land of the Free, not Land of the Free, some conditions apply. Not applicable in certain jurisdictions. Check with your doctor if you are in an area free enough to grow a garden.
It’s the land of the free for the specific class, race, and ideology that phrase was implicitly intended to cover.
It’s land of the fee
“Land of the free” has only ever been propaganda. Free to sell your body and soul to a capitalist or starve to death under a bridge. Wow, what freedom.
