come at me bro

  • darkempressofchaos@lemmy.worldOP
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    if that is your answer, that is called the

    Burden of Proof Fallacy

    Basically, that’s not an answer and is quite illogical to ask that

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      Except that’s not how burden of proof works. To be atheist, is simply to reject the claim that there is a God or gods. You don’t require proof that something doesn’t exist, you have to prove when something does exist.

      I can claim I banged your mom last night, but as the ancient philosophers say, pics or it didn’t happen.

      • darkempressofchaos@lemmy.worldOP
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        yeaaa but I didnt make the Claim god exist, I ask why is the proof he doesnt exist. and he try to throw the burden of proof at me and treated it as a answer. So that’s a logical fallacy

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          That’s a complete misunderstanding of how burden of proof works.

          Why do you believe I didn’t bang your mom?

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          Asking to prove a negative is also a fallacy. But to answer the question, there isn’t proof of there not being any of the gods proposes throughout human history. To use the reasoning you’re trying to force us into, they must all be true. Except that’s ridiculous.

          You might chime in with “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence”, and that is correct. So we can’t say for sure (prove) that any of these gods exist. We await the presentation of evidence of existence that will get us out of this impasse you’ve put the argument in. It shouldn’t be difficult, if any of them exist.

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            you theoretically can prove a negative and is not considered a logical fallacy, and I am sure a reasonable and rational being can prove their objective claims with better objective evidence rather than give me nothing

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                that is theoretically possible, you just have to look around the orbit area of Jupiter and where the teapot will orbit given its mass and weight

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                  That’s not a proof it doesn’t exist though. See, you fell into the trap you tried to catch us in.

                  I can say the same thing, if I look for certain evidence that whatever god in question should have and don’t find it, then the likelihood of that existence decreases. But of course each god has their own characteristics, which is why we asked you to clarify a god to question.

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                    but it would theoretically exist? a record of the entire orbital ring of jupiter that a teapot would inhabit would be a theoretically existing object if it was created

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      God doesnt exist. Proof: no “spiritual” influence has ever occurred on earth.

      the bible is not a factual account.

      • darkempressofchaos@lemmy.worldOP
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        that is Petitio Principii

        if the proof is that no Spiritual influence has ever occurred on Earth we would need to give a natural explanation for each and every miracle and spiritual miracle that appeared in human history which would be next to impossible to do

        you have replaced my question with a nearly impossible premise with your argument

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          we would need to give a natural explanation for each and every miracle and spiritual miracle that appeared in human history

          No, you would first need to prove any of those things actually happened. The ones in the Bible are just made up stories with no evidence.

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            why would I? when you asserted they were naturalistic. I made no such assertions on the topic and merely asked a question. so the burden of proof falls on you

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              no point debating with someone who fundamentally misunderstands the principals. good luck with your endeavours.