• deeprlyeh@lemmus.org
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    15 days ago

    We need to share social media feeds from Israel, posted by Israels. Some interest stuff in there.

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        15 days ago

        I’m not posting that stuff or giving links to it. Trying to get me banned for posting death videos and racism?

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          15 days ago

          No, you didn’t specify what it was you were talking about. My only social media is Lemmy. I did not assume Israeli social media was fucking death videos.

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            15 days ago

            It can’t all be. I know there are many Israelis who are against genocide, and there have been protests against the governments treatment of Palestinians.

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              14 days ago

              I know there are many Israelis who are against genocide

              Eh, not really. There are some, but polling shows that a super majority support the genocide?

              there have been protests against the governments treatment of Palestinians.

              There have been some small ones, but even them are mostly “genocide is too far, it should just be permanent apartheid”

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              14 days ago

              It’s hard to find trustworthy information about Israeli support for the actions of their country in Gaza and the west-bank from 2026, but the numbers that did show up earlier make me sadder everytime. These two article reference the same data, from one year ago. I have no reason to believe Israeli support for the people in Palestine. The small group of people who stand up against war seem to do that mostly because the life of Israeli soldiers (who are conscripted teenagers really). It’s unclear to me how well informed the public is about the scale of the war crimes, but it is obvious to everyone the army purposefully targets non-combatants (children, doctors, journalists, civilians) and in general it seems the public supports that.

              A new poll published in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reveals that genocidal rhetoric, once confined to Israel’s extremist settler fringe, has now moved into the mainstream, with overwhelming public support for ethnic cleansing, mass killings, and biblical revenge.

              Conducted by the Geocartography Knowledge Group for Penn State University in March 2025, the survey of 1,005 Israeli Jews paints a chilling picture of a society increasingly radicalised by religious nationalism and emboldened by war.

              https://www.trtworld.com/article/8802bc2d5043

              The survey, conducted in March and published by Haaretz newspaper on Thursday, found that 82 percent of Israeli Jews support the forced expulsion of Palestinians from the Gaza Strip.

              Meanwhile, 47 percent of Israeli Jews answered yes to the question: “Do you support the claim that the [Israeli army] in conquering an enemy city, should act in a manner similar to the way the Israelites did when they conquered Jericho under the leadership of Joshua, ie to kill all its inhabitants?” The reference is to the biblical account of the conquest of Jericho.

              https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/majority-israelis-support-expulsion-palestinians-gaza-poll

              Let that headline sink in: Nearly half of Israelis support army killing all Palestinians in Gaza.

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            15 days ago

            They post videos like it is 1950s USA. Screaming about killing children and getting rid of their blood line. Its wild.

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      15 days ago

      I’m a simple man.

      I see people being nice, I respect them. I see people hurting others I say fuck ‘em.

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        15 days ago

        You know what I mean? It doesn’t have to be harder than that. It used to be how we showed each other what is acceptable and what isn’t. That… doesn’t seem to “take” anymore.

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          14 days ago

          You would think a group that suffered the most horrific treatment from the nazis would do the exact opposite, not improve on their playbook

          That “never forget” slogan seems to mean “shoot first so they can’t” lately.

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            14 days ago

            They missed the part about “turn the other cheek”. Maybe that’s not in their religion, eh.

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      I’m actually becoming deeply convinced that one of the biggest dangers to the Jewish community is Israel itself.

      As things currently stand, they have the power to make people hate Jewish people more than just about anything else in this world.

      Not because I’m conflating being Jewish with being Israeli or vice versa, but because that appears to be the message they want to the world to embrace. That is really synonymous with being Jewish.

      Look at how quickly right wingers run the world are to jump to calling you anti-Semitic if you don’t appreciate something israel does.

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      14 days ago

      I mean at this point half the internet is The Israel Hating Website. The days when anti-Zionism was restricted to leftists and Muslims are long gone.

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      its the entire planet who holds this opinion, not just this website. humanity just hate crimes against humanity, it turns out. Is that surprising to you? It gives me hope that humanity is decent.

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    15 days ago

    I believe this is the wrong template, as the meme is supposed to imply that the person is stating a weak, irrelevant opinion. However, this statement is clearly superior and strong.

    That said, communication is fluid as it relies on people essentially “voting” and “agreeing” on the meaning by participating and engaging in it. Therefore I become the person as originally intended in the meme by potentially communicating something irrelavant.

    Ah, the self-own. Myself, how I have burned thee

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    This is another good example of saying “Fuck (country name)” they’re usually talking about the government of that country, and not necessarily the citizens. For example, Russia can fuck right off, but I’d expect that most Russian citizens are decent people who are merely drowning in propaganda. Lots of people are, all around the world.

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      14 days ago

      I take that approach for almost countries, but I have a hard time with Israel because their polls continue to show 80%+ support for the genocide. That’s a huge portion of the population to be irredeemable.

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      14 days ago

      Tbh, Israelis as a whole invite a lot of hate upon themselves by wholeheartedly supporting outright genocide. Public polling there shows a disturbingly large number of even young, secular Israelis advocate for killing everyone in Gaza, including women and children:

      https://zeteo.com/p/its-not-just-netanyahu-a-lot-of-israelis

      https://theconversation.com/in-israel-calls-for-genocide-have-migrated-from-the-margins-to-the-mainstream-250010

      That doesn’t mean every Israeli or every Jewish person is culpable or suspect, ofc. But I think it’s even more justifiable to distrust the country as a whole as it is to distrust the US electorate after re-electing Trump. Netanyahu is corrupt and bloodthirsty, but his policies still enjoy broad support from voters there.

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      15 days ago

      Yes even US Americans are probably just decent people generally. I know it’s hard to imagine with some of these countries but we shouldn’t forget people aren’t their governments.

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            14 days ago

            I don’t think anyone not living in America understands how deeply propaganda is pushed here across media and culture. The ruling class has distorted everything so much it’s hard to have a coherent conversation with most people on real issues. The misinformation and capital class talking points are intensely deep seated.

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              14 days ago

              Eh, the rest of the western world aren’t really any better in this regard, as much as they try to pretend that they are

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              14 days ago

              I think it’s pretty obvious for us here outside the US too. It is like bad body odour, it is harder to notice when you’re inside it and used to it.

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            14 days ago

            No. I’ve had several people admit to me that the hatred is the point.

            Anyine who still supports this regime is supporting them because of the hatred.

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                14 days ago

                I judge people based on their choices and actions.

                Some have chosen to embrace the hatred. And so I judge them for it.

                At this point in my life, I’m not interested in attempting to redeem people who have chosen evil.

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              Hate is a multi-billion dollar business in America. The capital class spends obscene amounts of money to keep people hating each other and stoke the culture war. It’s the evolution of the old school union busting on the 1900s.

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        14 days ago

        Yeah, Americans can be insufferable but I try to consider that they’re indoctrinated from birth and people be people. Birthplace doesn’t dictate the person

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      14 days ago

      I fully mean fuck the state and the people of Israel. May their country be destroyed and the lands returned to the Palestinians. Israelis can go flee to the US or something for all I care.

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        14 days ago

        Yeah, but I think sometimes people forget that the “fuck israel” has to be derived from “free Palestine” and just get a little carried away feeling comfortable in having someone they’re allowed to meaninglessly hate and vilify as the badguy

        There’s a great quote that you must love the oppressed more than you hate the oppressor, and that framing made a big impact on me. So much of the discussion online about plaestine is centered on Israeli atrocities, moreso than Palestinian tragedy and loss.

        I get why, but the important thing is the liberation of the Palestinian people. Hatred for their oppressor is meant to come from hatred of their oppression.

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          No I think Ill make my own choice on that, thanks. If I want to hate the oppressors AND the oppression thats my business. I want vengeance for the afronts to humanity. Its not just all fine if the oppression stops. Debts are now owed in a big way.

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            Justice should often include consequences (and does include consequences in cases of genocide), but if you set the goal as retribution you may lose sight of what justice would actually entail. They are not at all the same thing.

            And if we’re choosing between justice and retribution, one of those is a better choice that better honors the suffering of the oppressed than the other.

            I’m not saying only do one. I’m saying one of them must come from the other. One of them comes first.

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          14 days ago

          Mossad fucked with EVERYONE’S governments! From USA to Russia. You know, the pedo baby-eater who explicitly mentioned a plan to get rid of the poor.

          And Glishaine Maxwell had Mossad awsociation too. Now look what they are doing to Palestine.

          Hope you understand, that area needs to be fucking walled off, and anyone prevented from going in. Thanks to the religious nutbags, that entire area is a memetic hazard.

          Now I’m not going to say nuke Israel again, but that place needs to be gone one way or another. Idk, deport them to somewhere else, then salt the land and have border guards preventing the place from ever being settled again.

          • Cris_Citrus (he/him <3)@piefed.zip
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            14 days ago

            The place you’re saying to salt the earth is the stolen land of the Palestinians.

            Which, thats kinda exactly what I mean by loosing sight of liberation for the oppressed. You’re talking about whether to nuke the (stolen) homeland of a suffering group.

            You gotta remember that the point is justice, not retribution. And jutice often should include consequences. But that doesn’t make it the same thing as vindictive persecution.

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              14 days ago

              You don’t understand, so long as there’s some bibble bullshit about endtimes happening in Israel, there will always be someone trying to end the world. That’s the specific issue here.

              Of course, it’s someone else’s problem how to solve this ethically 🎵