About F’ing time.

  • jhdeval@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    My question is simple if the august 3rd? deadline is reached and then they announce he is deceased and has been what recourse do we have? The reason i understand they have not announced it is to prevent maisie from running in a special election. I do believe mcconell is likely passed or fully unresponsive.

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    19 days ago

    While the language in Beshear’s letter is strong, it likely won’t do anything. McConnell, like every member of Congress, can essentially go on paid medical leave for as long as he wants. The fact that our elected officials don’t really have to prove that they can walk, talk, and think coherently—while we still pay them—is disgraceful. Maybe Beshear should just pay McConnell a visit himself, and bring a camera crew with him.

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      18 days ago

      The blue collar worker should try this approach. Oh, right. We wouldn’t have a job in a few days.

  • Pacattack57@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    So we’re calling mildly worded letters an order now? He’s doing the same bullshit everyone else does. Every week that gets added to this he writes another letter. MF the deadline for the election is next week.

    For context Senator Ben Lujan from New Mexico got BRAIN SURGERY after a STROKE. He returned to work after a little over a month. He took less time off than McConnell has had for what is allegedly only a minor case of Pneumonia.

    Why does Trump get carté blanché but when it’s anyone else they just throw their hands in the air. Beshear needs to just hold the special election. Watch how fast they provide information.

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      18 days ago

      Props to Senator Lujan. One month after any surgery is intense, let alone brain surgery.

  • resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe
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    19 days ago

    Mitch is feeling much better lately.

    Went for a hike today:

    Then they visited Paris:

    And stopped by Euro Disney:

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    19 days ago

    Stop demanding shit and just replace him. If he can’t prove he’s alive he’s not fit to “serve”.

  • isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    19 days ago

    Yet, the Democratic governor of Kentucky continues to be a chicken-shit coward. He has the power to end this now, but he’s too much of a coward to do anything. He can simply declare the seat vacant by death or incapacitation and call for a special election. If McConnell still walks among the living, then he can show up in court to prove his health quite easily. It would be the quickest court case ever.

    This is squarely on the hands of that sniveling coward Governor Beshear.

    • Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      18 days ago

      I wouldn’t like to be the guy that claimed mitch mcconnell was dead and then having to recuse myself because he comes to the court.

      And I would get laughed at in the internet

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      18 days ago

      Yep, completely gutless/meaningless: “If the Senator is unable to respond for either of those or other conditions, consider this letter a demand for his Senate staff to be honest and transparent with the people of Kentucky.”

      It should be a specific date and time when he’ll start the replacement process with a specific date and time when he expects the new person to be sworn in.

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      18 days ago

      He can simply declare the seat vacant by death or incapacitation and call for a special election.

      Can he actually?

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        18 days ago

        Sure. Whether or not its constitutional, etc. is really beside the point. Any official challenge to the governor’s declaration would necessarily involve demonstrating that McConnell is alive and well (or not). In either outcome, the question of the governor’s authority would be moot.

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          18 days ago

          My issue is that we now see how these types of actions aren’t punished, and it’s becoming a race to the bottom. I’m concerned the system will collapse, and not in the way that births a system that’s better for the world.

          I don’t know what the best step forward is but I suppose it would be to come out on top during the race and hope for the best.

      • isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        18 days ago

        Waaaah, but what if we caaaan’t? What if it doesn’t work? What if the courts just overrule it?

        Who fucking cares if it doesn’t work? Try it anyway and quit being a god-damn child.

        Let’s stop this limp-wristed, self-defeating, surrender-in-advance attitude. Here’s an idea. Try having a god damned backbone. Try it anyway and see if it sticks. As long as you have a half-decent legal theory, give it a go.

        Liberals are shiftless cowards. Republicans will happily try a dozen things out, expecting only one or two of them to hold up in court. Democrats second-guess themselves into paralysis.

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          18 days ago

          I love how criticize Republicans for doing certain things and then also Democrats for not doing those things.

          Really makes a lot sense.

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          18 days ago

          Jump down into the shit with the pigs then. “Republicans will happily try a dozen things out, expecting only one or two of them to hold up in court.” Yeah that’s one of their worst traits, they’re fundamentally acting in bad faith all the time. That’s WHY they’re willing to do this McConnell bullshit. That’s why McConnell was willing to block Merrick Garland’s supreme court confirmation the way he did, and then do a 180 to push Trump’s nominee through. They DO. NOT. CARE. about acting in good faith.

          To the extent that Democrats refrain from that kind of behavior I applaud them. You’re right a Republican Governor in this position would happily have pulled the trigger on this awhile ago because when they ask themselves “do I actually have the authority to do this thing? Can I do this thing without negative consequences?” they’re absolutely fine if only the second question can be answered with a yes.

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          18 days ago

          You said he could and I was curious if that was an official thing he could do as a part of the process.

          That’s all I was asking.

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            18 days ago

            The problem is that the right just does the thing five fucking times over while the left wrings their hands about how they might be perceived for even considering the thing.

            It works because they think the whole pearl clutching act from the right is genuine. It never fucking is. It’s a cudgel.

            I’m not sure how this can ever be fixed because the left tends to genuinely care about doing things ethically. The right knows this and uses it. There’s no way to stop it without fundamentally changing our ethics (and losing our ideology in the process).

            We have to be mindful of this strategy and stop giving the benefit of the doubt to people who abuse it as a means to an end. To literally kill people for being trans, for example.

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            18 days ago

            If trump has taught me anything, it’s that lawmakers can do whatever the fuck they want and let the courts sort it out later. And then maybe ignore the courts anyway.

  • arin@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    Weird to ask an unresponsive corpse to resign. Just pick a new senator!

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    19 days ago

    It seems to me from the Democrats’ point of view, that NOT having a special election is better for them, since right now, McConnell can’t vote so Repubs are down a senator and they have less chance of passing partisan legislation without him. The sooner there’s a special election, the sooner Repubs have another vote back for their side (in a special election he would definitely be replaced by a repub).

    If the governor (a Dem) could appoint someone (he can’t according to a KY law), then I see how it would make sense for repubs to keep the illusion going that McConnell will return. But as it stands, I don’t see why covering up his condition is doing repubs any good, in terms of the magic Aug. 3rd date or a special election.

    So my biggest concern is the possibility that McConnell really is going to recover and return to the Senate. That would be a damn shame. But he’s retiring after this the term anyway, so I dunno-- maybe all this cover-up is just so they can say he finished out his term.

  • FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca
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    18 days ago

    He’s passed on! This senator is no more! He has ceased to be! He’s expired and gone to meet his maker! He’s a stiff! Bereft of life, he rests in peace! If they hadn’t nailed him to the hospital bed he’d be pushing up the daisies! His metabolic processes are now history! He’s off the twig! He’s kicked the bucket, he’s shuffled off his mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the choir invisible!! HE IS AN EX-SENATOR!!