• JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
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    9 days ago

    Wtf is the point??

    Is someone out there drinking Budweiser…for the taste?

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      9 days ago

      I have a parent who will only drink “lite” beer. I do not understand it. It takes like shitty water.

      • Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
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        9 days ago

        Maybe they’re keeping a better balance of hydration to alcohol for their old brain, and not having a fruity or sweet taste but not boring plain water as well. Lite beer can occasionally be refreshing. Although personally I’d rather pour half a beer into a cup of ice than drink most light beers.

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        9 days ago

        In my experience it’s because they’re drinking 18 of them and don’t want to be sloppy drunk after 10-12 hours. I prefer the more direct method of hard liquor to be more efficient but I get the thought process.

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      9 days ago

      Is there a difference between Budweiser and having sex in a canoe? Nope. Both are fucking close to water.

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        9 days ago

        Usually you’d start that joke with ‘what do x and y have in common…’

        Starting with what’s the difference works when there’s a difference. Like this, ‘What’s the difference between a woman in a confessional and a woman in a bathtub? One has hope in her soul.’

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          8 days ago

          Thank you very much for the explanation. I would never have guessed. My mind is blown.

  • frunch@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    The AI slop used to generate the ad poster contained a nice suggestion for an alternative name for this crap:

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      I’m having trouble telling if the poster is AI slop or the entire picture is.

      The box of Budweiser looks 99% fine to me (bear in mind, I’m not American so I don’t know if that’s what it looks like), but the text on the close edge of the top side of the box looks weird to me. Buuut it could also just be compression artifacts.

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        8 days ago

        Can and box are real and sold in Canada.

        Poster is AI slop. Either added into the image or made by the store. Budweiser wouldn’t be promoting Corona, a competitor.

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        The real reason is you don’t. Not in every state. Some defined it by a strict measurable standard. Others defined it to close off what’s depicted in this image. Others defined it to describe what was banned as oppressed to what you measure, so that if you’re selling beer you can’t sell it to kids. No checking labels, no “well, it’s my home brew so I don’t know”. Is it beer? You can’t sell it to kids.

        The last one is almost funny because you can almost feel the confusion about why the concept of non-alcoholic beer even exists.

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        The same reason why vapes are considered “tobacco products” despite not containing any tobacco and considered “flavored” if they contain any flavor (or no flavor) besides “tobacco” flavor (which is actually just caramel flavoring since vape juice has no flavor by default). It’s because politicians are stupid and short sighted and most of these regulations make little sense outside of government control.

      • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world
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        8 days ago

        Rates of alcohol use and addiction have been decreasing.

        This is just getting them started early like cigarettes always tried to do.

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        8 days ago

        Ok, I did the digging on this because you asked. I actually just assumed because I was carded for NA beer that this was a law.

        In the US, federally it is not illegal to sell less than 0.5% without carding. But many states treat NA beer the same as normal beer and they require the person be over 21. In the states that do not require 21 and over for NA beer many (most) stores and bars will still card because its better safe than sorry when it comes to ABC and losing your license.

        So even tho it might be legal, you are probably still going to get carded, except at this place I guess.

        But also I am struggling to understand why someone would choose to drink NA beer if they didn’t already know what real beer was like and was trying to avoid it by getting the NA kind (like me). Like - NA beer costs the same as real beer, just buy literally anything else to drink and its cheaper.

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          I saw a pregnant person drink a non alcoholic beer. I guess it’s better than nothing? I could imagine a pregnant person craving a beer, but wanting to avoid alcohol.

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          The only reason I can see someone choosing NA beer over real beer would be alcoholism but that seems to be playing with fire.

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            I choose NA beer for that exact reason and its been a really big tool for me to keep my sobriety. It works for some and for others it doesn’t but I am glad its available as an option for me. But had I never started drinking in the first place I would not like beer, so I am not sure why anyone would buy NA beer unless, like me, they are trying to scratch an itch that can’t be scratched like it was before.

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          Technically the drinking age isn’t a national law at all. Setting the state law to alignment is a precondition for national highway funding. A state can set the age to whatever they want, but the federal government wouldn’t give money for road maintenance.

          As such, different states define a prohibited beverage in different ways. Some set the limit based on a set alcohol limit. Others based on intent or similarity, essentially so that they can prevent advertising alcoholfree beverages to kids and getting them in the habit at an impressionable age.

          Most common is the abv limit based on what’s typically found naturally in juices and such, with limited exceptions for religious ceremonies, parental supervision, or accidental ingestion and such. (Technically speaking, if you call 911 because your 3 year old stole a canned alcoholic beverage off the counter and drank a bunch before you noticed and you’re scared, they would be required to also give you and the child legal penalties without that clause).

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        Because it’s beer. Generally the way laws are written in the us, they call out beer, wine, and spirits, or some such wording, not being available to under 21s.

        Laws generally do not mention alcohol content of whatever it is you’re buying.

        Vice is difficult to regulate, and laws surrounding vice are imperfect

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    9 days ago

    They saw that younger people aren’t drinking nearly as much, so they thought this might be a solution? Get kids used to the flavor earlier?

    Sadly, I’m sure there are plenty of shitty parents who would buy this for their kids.

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      I don’t think there’s many parents that would buy this for their kids. I grew up knowing friends parents would would just straight up buy you actual beer. But knowing them, if they saw this, I imagine them saying “Then what’s the fucking point??? Pussyass bullshit!” While at the same time putting 2-24packs in the cart, and then saying “For you and your little friends when they get here.”

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    9 days ago

    Not only 0% alcohol, also 0% taste and 0% beer. There are great alcohol free beers out there btw. This ain’t it.

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      9 days ago

      What’s this actually taste like? I figure it’s basically what they added to bud light to make bud select if it wasn’t just water. Bud light - 110 calories, 4.2% alc. Select - 55 calories 2.1% alcohol.

      I remember looking at it when it came out and thinking they filled half the bottle with carbonated water and sold it for slightly more.

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        What is it with Americans and bud light anyway. It’s the worst version of the product and yet for some reason it’s really popular in the US.

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          It’s common and they were already in place when prohibition ended.

          So after a good chunk of time with all the breweries becoming unavailable, they were fast to start selling and it just became a common brand.

          Having the three key elements to an alcohol consumed for social purposes rather than taste also helped: cheap, available and cheap.

          We’ve got others around, but they’re generally not everywhere.

          I don’t know that I’ve ever heard anyone say they like the taste though. I think the closest I’ve heard is someone saying they like how it’s cold.

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          Because you can drink it all day and still drive home.

          I’d say this is sarcasm, but I live in a rural area and have heard it calls ‘driving beer’ before. And looking in the ditches, it appears to be true.

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      9 days ago

      If you try them in Europe they are great. And even there underage kids are not allowed to buy them

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    9 days ago

    I still get carded often when I buy NA beer. Often the cashier will even acknowledge that it’s NA but say that they still have to card me.

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      I always thought it was because there is alcohol in it still. NA beer I thought was classified as .5% or less. So legally they are still regulated.

      Alcohol free is 0%.

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        Fruit juice naturally has around 0.5% alcohol. It’s just a side effect of wet sugar.

        There’s no legal federal limit, it’s all state law. Some states go by that 0.5%. others go by a definition that includes “things sold as beer” essentially.
        "You are holding a container. It is labeled beer. Do not give it to anyone under 21.”

        Other times stores just assume and card everyone because it’s waaay easier than nuance and you’re not legally required to sell non-alcoholic beverages to minors.

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          Because people aren’t making irrational claims yelling at companies who make juice. Eating a banana or drinking juices that are higher in glucose aren’t going to hurt you in any measurable way that the sugar won’t hurt you so drastically more.

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        They say “contains less than 0.5%” because that’s the cutoff that makes something legally beer. It more than likely has none, much of the time. That’s just the law (US):

        > 0.5% it’s beer and subject to alcohol laws

        < 0.5% it’s not beer, technically a soda or something

        So they label it as <0.5% simply to show that it’s in the latter category. This creates a lot of confusion for some reason. Hell, half the brands don’t have required nutritional info (beer doesn’t need it, soda does) but the real problem is that:

        The regulatory agencies are captured and don’t do shit anymore. TECHNICALLY the FDA should be stepping in and making them put full nutritional information on all the brands of NA “beer” and making sure it is labeled and sold like a food. But they don’t.

        Counter example: kombucha has naturally occurring alcohol, but you don’t see anyone getting carded for it and you have the regular nutritional label on it.

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        The 0.0% on the poster must legally be without alcohol whatsoever. What you have in mind is a confusingly named non-alcoholic beer which goes under the official alcoholic beer radar.

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      9 days ago

      I quite enjoy ‘Supermalt’, a malt drink with NO alcohol. It has a large warning for 18+ on the shelves at Tesco, yet I’m not carded on checkout.

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      9 days ago

      I think a lot of it is due to stupid shop policies. I have been refused sale of a teaspoon for not having ID.

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    The amount of adult stuff being deliberately pointed at children has increased quite a lot over even just the past couple years, because the corporations know that no one is going to come after them for it.

    Hell, at my work, we replaced a court-ordered anti-smoking sign with a giant wall of cigarettes, so that we could make room for a bunch of new fruity flavors of nicotine pouches so that kids can become new addicts.

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      It’s always been the goal to get children consuming products. It’s a known function of humans that they usually stick to whatever they were doing when they were kids well into adulthood. It’s harder to convince an adult with pre-established routines and preferred products to switch over.

      You’re right though that it’s getting pretty blatant now, but that’s to be expected as we dismantle food and drug regulations.

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      I suspect this is legal because “under aged” in the US doesnt explicitly mean “under 18”, since the legal drinking age is 21.

    • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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      Alcohol never did anything for me except make me sleepy. And now with kidney failure I can’t have social anyway.

      I keep na beer because I like the taste and probably every month or so have one with pizza or something.

      Even cheap beer is fine.

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    Seems fake. It’s also not legal AFAIK to sell non alcoholic beer to minors since it’s still got some alcohol in it. Then again I guess vanilla extract and mouth wash does too.

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      There’s a difference between non-alcoholic (or alcohol-free) and 0.0% alcohol (like it appears in the poster). The former allows for up to 0.5% ABV, while the latter means absolutely no alcohol whatsoever.

      Still I don’t think it’s a good idea to get children used to the idea of drinking alcoholic beverages.

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        They say “contains less than 0.5%” because that’s the cutoff that makes something legally beer. It more than likely has none, much of the time. That’s just the law (US):

        > 0.5% it’s beer and subject to alcohol laws

        < 0.5% it’s not beer, technically a food

        So they label it as <0.5% simply to show that it’s in the latter category. This creates a lot of confusion for some reason.

        Even the grocers (and even manufacturers) get it all messed up. Hell, half the brands don’t have required nutritional info (beer doesn’t need it, soda does) but the real problem is that:

        The regulatory agencies are captured and don’t do shit anymore. TECHNICALLY the FDA should be stepping in and making them put full nutritional information on all the brands of NA “beer” and making sure it is labeled and sold like a soda.

        But the larger companies that sell it are just misclassifying it and creating problems to be as lazy and risk avoidant as possible.