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If you’d told any American 40 years ago that Mexico’s democracy in 2026 would make Americas look pathetic, they’d have called you crazy and then beaten you up. Not so much anymore.
They’d probably still beat you up. And then shoot you.
They probably still will…
USA! USA!
WOOO! FREEDOM!! MURICA!!
Booooorn in the USM
I voted her for this kind of policies, but reality is not that simple. Public healthcare costs a lot of money, and current facilities and personnel are in the stone age. I wouldn’t go to any public healthcare facility right now as my first choice. At least not where I live. Sustained investment and vigilance are key, and I hope that by the end of her mandate we will have something we could call a proper public healthcare system, not yet a decent one, but an existing one.
Still something better than the US, where some wait (or are poor so they just need to go to the ER) until the ER when it’s too late. The only prevention is those with regular insurance and use it.
A step in the right direction. Thank you for sharing the realism on a clickbait title.
Mexicano Tijuanense aquí, I concur
Although the voter ID registration for existing and new phone numbers is dumb as shit. Complete erosion of privacy.
This kinda thing doesn’t turn on over night. You might be able to afford private, but very few will be able to. The American paid system has a 3-9 month wait for doctor visits right now in Tucson. My doctor also doesn’t even physically examine me anymore because they’re so rushed to get in other patients, because capitalism.
I’m okay with both opinions of capitalism as evil or not. The American healthcare system is, sorry, it is dogshit. No one should be living under that system, it’s only better than nothing at all, I guess.
As a Canadian living in the southwestern US because I physically cannot handle the cold, the healthcare here is worse than dog shit.
Public healthcare costs a lot of money
True. But private healthcare costs even more.
True. But it only matters if you are alive. Look, I’m not trying to be cynical, we have both systems in Mexico, and I’ve experienced both as a client. I’m all for public healthcare, but if it doesn’t work, it’s only a pretty idea. On the private side, yeah it’s fucking expensive, but it kind of works for the ones who can afford it. Just to be clear, we agree.
Dr .Simi login… (Very cheap Mexican drugstore chain, med labs and MDs consultation, even veterinary services on some cities)
Better put their own wall up before the Americans start pouring in.
“I told you Mexico would pay for it!”
They already are. They work remote jobs in the US and call themselves Digital Nomads 🙄
Hopefully they’ll just use steel slats!
Impenetrable!
This has been happening for several decades. My grandmother used to take regular trips across the border from Corpus Cristi to get her meds at pennies on the dollar.
I was literally just thinking retiring to Mexico doesn’t sound terrible in the future.
Fucking colonizers, man.
if you want the lifestyle. areas with many expats have higher prices. lake chapala area is one. speak spanish
“Expats” code word for fortune seeking migrant
Climate change is not boding well for Mexico unfortunately. You can expect severe water shortages in the coming decades.
Yeah, that’s true.
But in Mexico the remaining water is less likely to be hoarded by billionaires, so you might still have better access to water after all.
Can we make communities that are underground? Like fallout or silo
Humans don’t do very well without exposure to sunlight.
You can manufacture fish-eye glass domes that sit on the surface and lead to mirror-walled tubes that parascopically carry the sunlight to the deeper into the catacombs and distribute it to each chamber.
The outlets could basically just be slightly convex glass discs to fill the whole space with light, with simple aperture adjustments to control the amount of light in the room.
Take your daily vitamin D pill!
Yay! Also Mexico got free healthcare before the U.S.A. and North Korea may get a female leader before the U.S.A. gets a female president. Truly 'murica
Can we have health care, if Mexico pays for it?
better watch out for uncle sam
Viva Mexico!
How will this impact the medical tourism industry that Americans depend on for affordable healthcare?
It’ll probably stay the same. This administration is very aware of these issues and I doubt they’ll intervene. Private practice is already available to anyone who wants it, no questions asked.
Source: am Mexican living in Mexico
That’s one of the things uasians don’t understand. Universal health care doesn’t mean there are no private hospitals or practices. It means you have a choice, but you are covered no matter what.
Don’t worry americans don’t use public healthcare in Mexico, otherwise they would actually understand the struggle to get it
They just use private healthcare since it is catered to them while being cheaper compared to the US (I worked on medical tourism, all the marketing for these clinics is targeted to americans; most of them don’t even bother using Spanish on their ads)
You’re not kidding. Some towns like Los Algodones built their entire economy around medical tourism.
Wel now it will be called Los Aldogones
I’m sure it will persist, as it primarily services Americans. And their money is still good.
If anything, we’ll see the Mexican health care system expand in order to absorb all the domestic residents who can now afford the same care
I’m sure you need to be a Mexican citizen to qualify for the program, I imagine foreigners get a bill. But I’m an American that expects a crippling bill from medical care so I have a bias.
We have free at point of service health care in Canada for those signed up to the plan. You don’t have to be a citizen just a resident and wait your 2 month grace period. For tourists and non signed up folks you pay the costs out of pocket, but they are reasonable compared to USA. A coworker wasn’t here long enough for the signup and dislocated his shoulder. Hospital visit, xray, sling, etc $400
In some countries they don’t even have the financial infrastructure to bill patients, so injured tourists get free health care. A big chunk of American medical bills is due to the cost of billing.
In some countries they don’t even have the financial infrastructure to bill patients,
That’s a bit fat-fetched…
That’s true, they fetch it from America.
Which countries? Asking for a friend
I never went to surgery or anything, but I’ve been to a couple of Drs in Mexico and it’s basically just like paying the copay and just peacing out. Most of the time you can just ask the pharmacist and they prescribe whatever right there.
You’re overestimating the American Healthcare system.
The ones i know: Denmark, England, Sweden, Norway
But I would imagine that most other countries with unified tax paid healthcare would be the same.
In Denmark (and I would assume those other countries as well) it varies depending on the factors. If you are a foreigner but are living in Denmark, or if you are staying in Denmark for a job, then you can apply for the rights of free healthcare treatment, but if you are a tourist needing urgent care, and are not a citizen of the EU (or the Nordic countries), or under the age of 18, then you will be billed.
So there definitely is a financial infrastructure to bill in Denmark, even though its own citizens never see it. Without knowing it precisely I would also assume that the bill would be very reasonable compared to a bill for the same treatment in the US.
Why posting this 2-months old article now?
It’s almost like there is an exceptional amount of things happening right now in the world. We all have our own local issues and sometimes it takes a minute to catch up on what happened else where.
I’m just learning about it. I don’t care that 2 months have passed. It’s very uplifting and would be even if I already knew about it.
What the hell is your problem with it not being new enough? Why are you gate keeping here?
Please stop being a nuisance. If you have a legitimate concern about this then just come out and say it. Stop being an asshole.
And remember the old saying, if you don’t have anything nice to say, shut the fuck up and mind your own business. This isn’t hurting ANYONE to be reminded of it, and if someone, such as myself, is learning about it for the first time why are you trying to take that away from me. Today I’m one of the 10,000. Perhaps tomorrow you will be.
Better late than never.
2/10,000
Mossad and the cia are going to go there to arm criminals plant terrorists destroy all hope
Didn’t Iran just execut 2000 of them?
not free; tax funded
Which is great! Taxes should be invested in citizen’s needs.
There are so many health services that can be delivered en masse at very little cost. I once lived in a “3rd world” country with state sponsored healthcare. They had an army of nurses in shop storefronts delivering vaccines and basic meds for common illnesses. Just walk in. Nothing fancy - one of them literally reused hypodermic needles after sterilizing them with a bunsen burner. But how fancy does it actually need to be?
That’s a thing in the US too, by the way. You can walk into a pharmacy or some grocery stores and get cheap/free vaccines for the current flu strain as well as the standard immunizations for a bunch of common diseases.
Most people don’t take advantage of it.
It’s unfortunate that vaccinations somehow became political because it’s a great example of public health efforts for all being cheap with huge benefits
True that’s how I get my flu shots and such. It’s often extremely modest accommodations. Once my feet were resting on a pile of discarded coat hangers and other detritus from the drugstore’s retail floor.
I agree, as a Canadian even if not perfect I couldn’t imagine having a pay system or even what the US calls healthcare. That’s the point of taxation, we get roads that are drivable, healthcare that is affordable and stuff like food standards, clean drinking water, education. The billionaires are trying to say everyone else doesn’t need such things so they can get a bigger nibble of the pie when they already have truckloads.
Free as in “free at the point of service”.
Of course it is paid for somehow.
But as far a a someone going into a hospital to get a cast, medicine, birth… It’s freeThat’s true. Unfortunately, calling it free is often used by people who want to paint it as infeasible, and is used as an excuse to cut funding—even when data shows it’s an investment with human and monetary rewards.
I like to compare it to someone sitting in math class, the lesson is on square numbers and they go “a square is a shape though”. Everyone who actually paid attention knows the relation between the concepts and doesn’t need to compensate ignorance with smug pedantry.
Only in one place, don’t paint everyone like the USA.
Hey, are you saying we get free police
You get free police beatings. And if you’re stopped they will empty the money out of your wallet as “civil asset forfeiture”. So not exactly a cost but not exactly free.
As far as everyone except oligarchs are concerned, it means everyone can access it without getting financially fucked over into debt. And that’s excellent news.
incorrect slightly- while most boomer and right wing assholes know it means free at point of service and tax funded they act like it means “free for welfare queens and illegals” because they think daddy capitalist is watching them lick boots.
Conservative America is driven so hard by the fear of somebody poorer than you getting something you’re not.
America wants things to be free when it’s for themselves, but not to pay a dime to benefit anyone else
Conservative America is driven so hard by the fear of somebody
poorerdarker skinned than you getting something you’re not.it’s both, not one or the other. race is a component of class society but does not predate it and will never supplant it
Yes I mean nothing is free if we try to be strict about it. The word would have no meaning. I think we all understand “sold at zero price” but there are always people in the crowd who want to pop up and say “it’s not free! someone pays!” Typically their next move is to start breaking down who pays and why it’s unfair. I have no patience for them.
I dont have patience for those people either, but in general a lot of people feel taxes are the state taking away money. Where i live this is true for large corpo’s and rich folk (‘the state should not waste money on things people can pay for by themselves’ is how they tend to put it here), but also by people with low wages tend to complain about how the state robs them. Reminding them how things they use are funded by the taxes they pay (roads, hospitals, police, education) can help them; because here they tend to fall for the retoric of the parties serving the rich and they sometimes truly believe the country would be nicer if they paid less taxes (not understanding they would have much more trouble paying for things like education and healthcare). For that reason I much prefer ‘tax-funded healthcare/public transport/education’, as calling it free is like giving a weapon to the group of people and corporations trying to lower their tax burden (and getting out of their responsibilities as the heavy lifters of funding public services).
Even setting aside the deceptive propaganda around this, “they” meaning right wing voters of modest means, still have two problems with tax funded services of any kind. The government may not be “taking money away” as in making it vanish, but they are taking away the choice of how that money should be spent. Conservatives see a moral hazard here where their taxes will pay for the poor lifestyle choices of others - and actually they are right, just not the way they think they are. It’s not abortions for slutty brown women they should worry about but metabolic syndrome brought on by their own white neighbors horrible diets that will burden the system most.
Their other problem is they don’t want to benefit from this kind of public good themselves. They see it as “taking charity” and although white people accept plenty of advantages, they like to stay proud about it. It doesn’t help to say “look, you’re getting something here.” So there just isn’t any way of making them comfortable with the setup, even when it isn’t being grossly distorted to them.
The whole “I don’t take no charity” is a very old American value and part of a complex system we have for giving people ways to feel superior to others. We don’t have a formal class system in this society but we service the same instincts in a hundred other small ways. Farm subsidies? Of course! Do you know how important farmers are? Healthcare supports? What… so I can pay for abortions for some illegal immigrant who couldn’t keep her legs closed?
We’re terminally stupid here and everything is about feels I don’t see how we’ll ever get past all this.
Conservatives see a moral hazard here where their taxes will pay for the poor lifestyle choices of others
I see a moral choice where my taxes will pay for the poor political choices of conservatives in poorer red states, but they also deserve free healthcare
There is “free as in beer” and “free as in speech” — this is “free as in theme park rides.”
You already paid.
also money is fictional so i consider it “free” if it helps the people actually.
Now they are going to need a wall to keep american’s out.
Fuck. I really should have taken Spanish seriously back in High School after all
It isn’t too late to finish learning Spanish :)
Just don’t go for Duolingo
You can always come to Mexico to learn. Just try to avoid highly gentrified areas and you’ll be fine. We are always happy to assist foreign people.
